 Poster: A snowHead
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the great thing about skiing is that anyone can do it, whether they're fit, slim or otherwise. However the fitter you are the easier it is, and very fat people can have a lot of problems getting up when they fall down. When I worked at Sandown we had a 25stone man for lessons - when he fell the whole slope shook, and it took 4 of us to get him up! 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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easiski, I bet you don't put 2 "larger" pupil on a T-bar together nowadays 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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queen bodecia, I am in total agreement with you here I am a 14 and I feel chunky its ridiculous isnt it I blame it all on Heat Magazine !
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Helen LS, is Heat magazine, in its choice of totty for covers and features, fuelling the market or reacting to it? Surely those magazine use slim, toned, tidy looking birds with good racks because that's what people want to look at.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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erica2004,
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...really get fit enough to ski properly ?
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yes I think so to a certain extent. I'm chunky and don't have any problems but not sure I could currently hack too much cross-country skiing for example. Trouble is, the better you get at downhill, I find the fewer calories you burn 
What inspired you to start this thread btw?
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I am very interested in this thread. I am age 54 and, like many middle-aged men, my ski fitness had declined. I had gradually swapped muscle for fat. Last year I decided to do something about it.
I worked on a principle of ski-efficiency: you have less innate athleticism as you age, so you need to maximise your efficiency. I reckoned the 3 important things were:
-Get fit (cycling/ gym)
-Lose weight (lost 11kg on a diet)
-Use good ski gear (well fitting boots/ sharp skis etc)
I ski a lot better; quicker, more agile, more stamina. I cannot seperate each of them in percentage terms but I suspect that if you are carrying a lot of excess body fat, it will sap your stamina, reduce your agility and increase the forces on your joints.
Mick
PS The fourth element is better tecnique, but that's another story.
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penster, The 4th element is vital if 1 & 2 are not going well.
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| Helen LS, is Heat magazine, in its choice of totty for covers and features, fuelling the market or reacting to it? Surely those magazine use slim, toned, tidy looking birds with good racks because that's what people want to look at. |
I'm not sure whether that is it.... Studies have shown that the average favourite size in a mans eyes is 14, I personally would take a 12-14 over skinny any day of the week. I sometimes wonder if the fasion magazine industry just assumes that that's what people want to see although from a technical perspective it's easier to produce an 'attractive' photograph with skinny models..
I was reading the freeride ski-tests in Jan's Ski & Snowboard mag and just happened to glance at the womens advanced section and the headline for the Amplid Milo ski read "Best for: Powerful lasses with well-built quads".......... Phwoar...... That sounds like my kinda girly
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Lou, My sister is very overweight (she lives in the States) and I've been trying to encourage her to shed a few stone and suggested that she goes skiing. She said she's 'too fat' and would find it difficult to 'manage'. I just need something to motivate her as she was always a healthy person. I'm worried about her health (blood pressure, increased risk of diabetes etc.).
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Vipa, interesting. I prefer a 10/12, but skinny (as Kate Moss was) is not at all attractive. Louise from Hollyoaks, on the other hand, ...
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| hyweljenkins wrote: |
| Vipa, interesting. I prefer a 10/12, but skinny (as Kate Moss was) is not at all attractive. Louise from Hollyoaks, on the other hand, ... |
I'm with you on Louise but I much prefer Nancy! 
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Stop holding up Top Shop as the holy grail - you could probably fit in alot of things there however the cut of their jeans etc is designed for people with no hips whatsoever (teenage girls and skinny people) so even if you are a 14 or 16 chances are the jeans wont fit and never will, unless you smash your hips in with a mallet, but that kind of defeats the point.
Didnt they do a survey a few weeks ago and size 14 people were the happiest? I've lost weight recently simply because i've upped my exercise to run the marathon and I've stopped drinking. Now I fit in Roxy Snowboard pants - so I am happy
Megamum, you need a style overhaul now you're all super shaped.
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erica2004, I think someone she loves dearly backing her up by telling her to shed 2 stone is the best motivation a woman can get... 
She is responsible for her health. Maybe she has other reasons why she does not want to ski? After all you say she is a healthy person.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Blimey! Maybe I'll stop whinging about being a size 14. After all I guess I should be grateful that from the ages of 22-40 I've stayed precisely the same clothes size...
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Blobby people on skis look tragic.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Whitegold wrote: |
| Blobby people on skis look tragic. |
That's if you can catch a glimps of them as thier additional momentum carries them past you at warp factor 9..... She canna take any more Cap'n...... she's gonna blow!!! 
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Vipa, that 24hcb trip was absolutely incredible. I haven't written up the trip notes yet but will do this weekend. I drove back to Cheltenham (from LHR) to be in work for 10.15 on the Monday morning. I was shattered. New Yorkers are incredibly friendly people.
Next stop: Berlin.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I think if you did a survey of very overweight people, most of them would decline a FREE ski holiday as they are not the type of people who think exercise can actuallly be fun, plus its possibly not part of their lives.
I worked at a gym and a lot of the clients who were very overweight didn't want to run on the tredmill (or a fast walk) cos they looked and felt very self conscious! Think this may apply to learning to ski, I now work with obese kids and their families its the same..............tragic 
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erica2004, hmm I suppose depends on how overweight your sister is. I can't imagine it would be much fun trying to get up, especially when learning if you were very overweight. I didn't lose what I would have liked, 16 instead of 14, before last trip, and that's when I could feel the extra pounds (luckily falling over not so common these days  )
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Whitegold,
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Blobby people on skis look tragic
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There are many ways to look tragic on skis. But I would rather see an obese person out there enjoying the mountains than sittng at home.
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Zobo, isn't self-conciousness is a hurdle for most people who join gyms? Most people join for the same reasons, though: vanity and/or health.
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Lou, I was the wrong side of 17 stone when I went back to skiing as an adult. It was surprisingly EASY for an overweight woman to embrace skiing as exercise. It's fun, it's a one-man-show, you dress UP rather than down (nobody will see your wobbly bits in lycra) and your weight works WITH you as opposed to against you. Assuming your joints aren't wrecked it's a piece of p*ss and my instructor showed a fail-safe method of getting up for ANY size, not quite as dignified... but needs must et al. My biggest fear I suppose was wiping out a child - but then I think EVERYONE worries about that, not just the plump pixies.
Vipa ain't that the truth! *flies past at the speed of light*
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Zobo, Encourage them with an mp3 player on the treadmill, put them at the FRONT of the class with everyone behind them. If those behind REALLY want to stare at a fat, bouncing a*se, let them knock themselves out . I find it much easier to be in front of everyone than behind "comparing". If someone really really really wants to focus on my a*se then they need to get out more! 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Alexandra, stop talking about bottoms! the man in the bike shop just suggested I clip my new bike light to the waist band of my joggers for my cycle home - ALL OF LONDON is going to see it illuminated in all its glory
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Nadenoodlee, should make them slow down if nothing else!
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You know it makes sense.
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Anyway, a size 14 isn't a 14 anymore. Haven't you heard of vanity sizing? We're all a whole lot bigger than our previous generation.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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erica2004, I think you're right. I can wear a Howies Merino tshirt under a small Fat Face fleece under a small Berghaus fleece. Fat Face has always been generous in the cut, but I've always been medium. Given that FF sizes are larger than other places, I'm amazed that they have stuff in XXXL.
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Poster: A snowHead
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erica2004, yep thats why when people say Marilyn Monroe was a 16 it really annoys me, yes she was a 16, but thats like a 12 these days! We're taller and narrower about the hip apparently, due to work stress!?!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Damn, that just rained on my parade. I guess I'm a size 14 in new money not old money. And far too tall to be a pixie. Hmmm...
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my instructor showed a fail-safe method of getting up for ANY size,
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Alexandra, You must part with this information asap please - this is a vital part of my armory missing at the moment
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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MarjMJ,
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there is research evidence out there in learned journals that states if you are fat, then being fit and active is better than doing beggar all
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There's actually slightly more to it than that. Research actually shows that you have a lower risk of cardiovascular disease if you are fat but fit, than if you are thin but unfit.
So I'm OK then 
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eng_ch, do the Ski Divas know yet?
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