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Not exactlu unknown but Fox Peak in NZ is probably the least known of the places I have visited.

Niseko which I went to a quite a few years back is now mainstream.
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Above Stresa on Lake Maggiore you can ski in winter. Few drag lifts, but was only there in May
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How can anyone name a completely unkown resort? How can a completely unknown resort even exist?
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Well not *completely* unknown, obviously.
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How can anyone name a completely unkown resort? How can a completely unknown resort even exist?


A very interesting question. Watch out. Some of us could argue for pages about that.... Schrodinger's cat..... wink
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boabski, If you are going to look at ones like that, almost every village in the dolomites qualifies.

The main place we stayed in September, Molveno, has one gondola leading up to a ski area which has one chair lift and one blue piste. But it is only about 8Km from Andalo, which is a slightly better known ski resort.
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pam w wrote:
A very interesting question. Watch out. Some of us could argue for pages about that.... Schrodinger's cat..... wink


But in this case it doesn’t apply. The whole basis of Schrodinger's cat was that it was not possible to know if it was alive or dead.
But Schrodinger was wrong; he assumed that if something is unknown then all possible states exist at the same time. But, just because you don't know something doesn't mean that all the possibilities you can imagine must = true (to put in excel terms).
In this case (which I think you mean) if a resort is unknown we would not know about it and so could not put the name here. But by the Schrodinger's cat principle, a resort "could" be both known about and still be unknown to anyone.

So you could be wrong and right at the same time. Confused by putting a resort name here
My head hurts. A level physics was much too long ago.
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But by the Schrodinger's cat principle, a resort "could" be both known about and still be unknown to anyone.

Wayne, yes, that's just the kind of discussion I was thinking we could have. Laughing Meanwhile, if anyone knows about somewhere called something like La Bresse Hohneck, which is completely unknown to me, please tell me about it because my season ski pass gives me a free day there. Is it in the Jura?
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But by the Schrodinger's cat principle, a resort "could" be both known about and still be unknown to anyone.

Wayne, yes, that's just the kind of discussion I was thinking we could have. Laughing Meanwhile, if anyone knows about somewhere called something like La Bresse Hohneck, which is completely unknown to me, please tell me about it because my season ski pass gives me a free day there. Is it in the Jura?


Yes, it is in the Vosges (whgich is part of the Jura).
http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Vosges/La-Bresse-Hohneck

http://www.labresse.labellemontagne.com/english/index.php
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alex_heney wrote:
Yes, it is in the Vosges (whgich is part of the Jura).

Not when I went to school.
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la Quillane in the Pyrenees, probably one of the smallest too.... Laughing www.laquillane.fr Enjoyed a day at the place a few years ago pretty much to ourselves, great fun and at the time change out of £15 for both passes and lunch. Shocked snowHead
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Mad River Glen, Vermont
Not exactly unknown but if you are in the area and the snow is good, go find it and ski "Paradise" for me!
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alex_heney wrote:
Yes, it is in the Vosges (whgich is part of the Jura).

Not when I went to school.


You're right. For some reason I thought that the Vosges were the mountain range in the Jura department - but it is a separate (but linked) range, with its own department named after it.

And I have even been there Embarassed
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Mont Ventoux, Vaucluse, France
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Went skiing in a small place south of Jelenia Gora in SW Poland many about a decade ago, so unknown I cant remember the name of the mountain! Embarassed
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Isn't there a slope somewhere in the Lake District? Only opens for the club members - I seem to remember it was on Countryfile or similar a few years ago
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pam w,
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A very interesting question. Watch out. Some of us could argue for pages about that.... Schrodinger's cat.....

My brother in law's cat is called Schrodi and yes was it named after Schrodinger. He's a physicist - my brother in law that is, not his cat wink Nice guy but you wouldn't to borrow a book from him for bed time reading.
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Isn't there a slope somewhere in the Lake District? Only opens for the club members - I seem to remember it was on Countryfile or similar a few years ago
Raise- Lake District Ski club- near Helvellyn

Also Yad Moss south of Alston- skiing just a few weeks ago reported on WinterHIghland.


I once skied in a place called Aviemore in Scotland- anybody heard of either?
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Slavs'ke Ukraine. There is also Bukovel but its quite popular.
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Wayne wrote:
But in this case it doesn’t apply. The whole basis of Schrodinger's cat was that it was not possible to know if it was alive or dead.
But Schrodinger was wrong; he assumed that if something is unknown then all possible states exist at the same time. But, just because you don't know something doesn't mean that all the possibilities you can imagine must = true (to put in excel terms).
In this case (which I think you mean) if a resort is unknown we would not know about it and so could not put the name here. But by the Schrodinger's cat principle, a resort "could" be both known about and still be unknown to anyone.

So you could be wrong and right at the same time. Confused by putting a resort name here
My head hurts. A level physics was much too long ago.

Schrodinger came up with the cat example simply as a thought experiment to indicate the bizarre nature of quantum indeterminacy, in which the cat is both alive and dead until the box is opened and the observation causes the indeterminate state to collapse. He didn't think of the cat being both alive and dead as an actual possibility Smile

http://www.tcd.ie/Physics/Schools/what/atoms/quantum/cat.html
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sloop wrote:
Schrodinger came up with the cat example simply as a thought experiment to indicate the bizarre nature of quantum indeterminacy, in which the cat is both alive and dead until the box is opened and the observation causes the indeterminate state to collapse. He didn't think of the cat being both alive and dead as an actual possibility Smile http://www.tcd.ie/Physics/Schools/what/atoms/quantum/cat.html


As a ski forum is by it's very nature a thought process (well for a few anyway Very Happy ) my premise stands, as we (in this case) can not go and see the resorts and make a physically observation then we can think of them as known and unknown at the same time - but I may be wrong and correct neither of which are mutually exclusive of course Puzzled ) The cat "stuff" was a desperate attempt toexplain his second guess on the nature of being without observation, a little like chaos theory - as it's not possible to observer without disturbance. In this case “dolled up” as an experiment of the thought processes required. Did the isotope leak, did it not, was the cat dead or not. blah blah blah
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I'm sure I read a Fall Line or similar a year or two ago claiming there was a golf course in SE England with uplift just in case of snow - complete with photos on the website that were clearly, definitely, pictures of the Alps. Anyone have any recollection of that?
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paulio, No, but the first runs I ever skied (in Verbier) were part of a golf course in the summer.
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Hurtle wrote:
Mont Ventoux, Vaucluse, France


There are two resorts, but not really unknown to snowheads as PG posted some stuff about MV and even PisteHors has something:-

http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Southern-Alps/Mont-Serein

I agree with the Schroedingers cat argument though. The thread should be "obscure or little known" ski resorts.

The good thing about these resorts is there are no lift queues, even in the February school holidays.
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This sounds a bit like a a philosophical conversation between Donald Rumsfeld and Bertie Bassett.
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jbob wrote:
This sounds a bit like a a philosophical conversation between Donald Rumsfeld and Bertie Bassett.


Laughing
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davidof wrote:
The thread should be "obscure or little known" ski resorts.


paulio wrote:
Well not *completely* unknown, obviously.


Do you see?
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Wayne wrote:
sloop wrote:
Schrodinger came up with the cat example simply as a thought experiment to indicate the bizarre nature of quantum indeterminacy, in which the cat is both alive and dead until the box is opened and the observation causes the indeterminate state to collapse. He didn't think of the cat being both alive and dead as an actual possibility Smile http://www.tcd.ie/Physics/Schools/what/atoms/quantum/cat.html


As a ski forum is by it's very nature a thought process (well for a few anyway Very Happy ) my premise stands, as we (in this case) can not go and see the resorts and make a physically observation then we can think of them as known and unknown at the same time - but I may be wrong and correct neither of which are mutually exclusive of course Puzzled ) The cat "stuff" was a desperate attempt toexplain his second guess on the nature of being without observation, a little like chaos theory - as it's not possible to observer without disturbance. In this case “dolled up” as an experiment of the thought processes required. Did the isotope leak, did it not, was the cat dead or not. blah blah blah

You may call it "desperate" but the fact is, if the cat cycle through both dead and alive state fast enough, you can't tell which one she's in until you stop the process.

It may seem bazarre but so does movies. Each frame is non-moving. Yet, when you go through them fast enough, it appears to be moving! What's more bazarre about that?

The title of this thread only ask for "unknown" resort, regardless if they're of any good. There're literally tens of thousands of such resorts. I read somehwere, there're thousands ski resorts in Japan alone. Though many of them are no more than a one tow slope. One can definitely find a VERY long list of such "unknown", though best left that way, resorts!
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This has all gone terribly wrong, hasn't it.


Albert Einstein 1945 ??
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Not quite as badly as that.
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paulio wrote:
This has all gone terribly wrong, hasn't it.


it has ...

Anyway, here's a desperate attempt to quash feline discussions and return vaguely to the thread's original topic Smile

In North America we call places of the ilk described in this thread 'ski hills'. Resort is an inflated terms used by the Brits to imply luxury and grand facilities so they boast to the non-skiing peasants upon returning home that they visited a 'resort'.

Loup Loup in Washington State is a good example of a ski hill. Find the word 'resort' on that web site (he says, fingers crossed!). You don't go to Loup Loup for a holiday. If you're a local, or lost, you simply go to ski.
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OK - a relatively obscure Tyrolean ski resort: Kolsass-Weer.

Skied there twice in the mid 80's. Went by coach from Newcastle with the now defunct NAT Holidays - 36 hours door to door Shocked .
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La Contamine. ...
I learned to snowboard there many years ago. If I remember rightly it was a sleepy little village in the foothill of Mt.Blanc.
It has dissapeared off the radar in terms of brouchure listings.. Puzzled

Anyone else been there or got a links to the village? I would love to go back one day..
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Oh for goodness' sake.
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Harenda, Szymoskova, Nosal - all near Zakopane in Poland.

Worth a day (for all 3!!) for the novelty of skiing Poland (and trying to work out the points system for the lifts!!)if you are visiting Krakow in winter.
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Apparently the world’s smallest resort is Mosset - 100m vertical, not sure how many lifts but I would think only one.
http://www.prades-tourisme.com/new/alentours/engels_mosset.html#

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In winter you can ski in “the smallest ski resort in the world”, at the Col de Jau, just above the village. Seduced by the vitality of the village, the warm welcome of the Mossétans the richness of the culture and heritage and the presence of many artists

So if you want to be seduced and welcomed by artists as you whizz down the 100m then this is the place to go.
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paulio, sorry. First I go off at half cock with a cat, now you have people who think Les Contamines is an unknown resort...

I could contribute Areches-Beaufort. It's not unknown, it's just that most British skiers have never heard of it. Or Flumet. A small place, with one of the nastiest drag lifts in the business.
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