Poster: A snowHead
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They just strap on a set of blades
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strap???? when where straps ever used on snowblades
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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graeme wrote: |
come on, at least when i stated skiboards where safer i provided evidence (current or not). |
But I didn't state anything, I simply said what my experience was. Other people can say what their own experience is; presumably you will state that in your experience bladers/snowboarders are technically superior on average to skiers and snowboarders?
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presumably you will state that in your experience
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please dont try and presume anything about me, you dont know me enough to attempt that
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graeme wrote: |
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presumably you will state that in your experience
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please dont try and presume anything about me, you dont know me enough to attempt that |
Consider it as an invitation to share your experience rather than any presumed knowledge about your views on the world (of snowsports)...
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rob@rar wrote: |
I've thought that might account for it |
I thought you might have thought about that already.
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rob@rar wrote: |
I've thought that might account for it |
I thought you might have thought about that already. |
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why would i claim that skiboarders are technically better than skiers? sorry but i dont feel the need to say one sport is better than the other. i say have fun on snow whatever way you want.
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graeme wrote: |
why would i claim that skiboarders are technically better than skiers? sorry but i dont feel the need to say one sport is better than the other. |
But you do feel the need to say that one is safer than the other, and to "correct" those people who call it snowblading.
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hold on a second, why not look back at threads about skiboarding, you will see that many people have claimed that skiboarding is more dangerous than skiing. i showed that this is not the case. the sport i participate in is not called snowblading, it is called skiboarding, that is a fact
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graeme wrote: |
why would i claim that skiboarders are technically better than skiers? sorry but i dont feel the need to say one sport is better than the other. i say have fun on snow whatever way you want. |
why would you claim that they are different sports?
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graeme wrote: |
hold on a second, why not look back at threads about skiboarding, you will see that many people have claimed that skiboarding is more dangerous than skiing. i showed that this is not the case. the sport i participate in is not called snowblading, it is called skiboarding, that is a fact |
Many people might have claimed that, but I've said that in my experience a higher proportion of bladers/skiboarders (or whatever pedantic title you want to use) are more of a risk to other people on the pistes because relatively few of them seem to be able to control their speed and trajectory. They might well suffer fewer injuries themselves (seems obvious to me that they would because of less leverage on knees and ankles), but perhaps more of a danger to other people? In the last three or four years I have seen many more people on short skis who are on terrain way too steep for their ability, despite the fact that they are in the minority on the slopes. I accept that may well be untypical experience, but in the 150+ days I've skied in the last four years that is what I've seen.
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comprex wrote: |
graeme wrote: |
why would i claim that skiboarders are technically better than skiers? sorry but i dont feel the need to say one sport is better than the other. i say have fun on snow whatever way you want. |
why would you claim that they are different sports? |
lol because i can
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Okeydoke. If dozens of miniski manufacturers make the statement over and again for years, it must be true.
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You know it makes sense.
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rob@rar, I agree with you about the skill profile demonstrated. I know there are some brilliant skiboarders out there who are a joy to watch. But there are a lot of teenagers who use them as a short cut, and I have seen a few spiral tibial fractures in friends children resulting from the older bindings, and some very out-of-control behaviour in people who could really do with a lesson. Lots of skiers and boarders who suck too.
graeme, I am sure you are a great ski-boarder, I am sure that the better bindings are improving safety and I suspect that because most bladers/ski-boarders are young men (knee ligament injuries are more common as you get older, and if you are female) and stick to pistes away from trees that the injury-per-day rate is not that high. I do wonder if Lizzard threw a fish in and you bit! Any risk of ski-boarding becoming an Olympic sport?
To get back on topic - Stemondo - surely demo and hire first - and take some lessons and see if you do want to head back to skis?
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I've decided to write the definitive "Are Snowblades for You?" quiz. I'd like to think it's neutral and will happily explain why if anyone feels it slights their choice of ski.
1. Do you plan on hitting any kickers during your skiing, or going off-piste for powder during days where fresh snow is available?
2. Are you wanting to make friends, with the seasonaire community, or with basically anyone on the slopes?
3. When you turn, do you carve your skis or slide them around? No shame in either, but it makes a different to which suits you.
4. Do you spend >1 week on snow a year?
5. Jester hat or Helmet?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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comprex, excellent proof of the effectiveness it!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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DaveC, Computer say no...
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Well i started something here daint I. So im guessing if I do get some don't go for the skiblades go for the proper skiboards like the ones on skiboardsonline.com but before i do buy I will rent some to see if i even like em. If anyone knows any U.K site selling skiboards let me know.
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there will be a uk based revel8 stockist up and running this year, i will post a link later
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I've had a pair of these http://www.skiboards.com/skiboards/head/bigeasy.html for the the last 3 seasons and I've never had so much fun.
I've been knee deep in powder and down all groomed stuff in a variety of conditions on them. I tend to stick to steeper runs on them as they are slow on heavy snow and on flats. I find them a little harder on my thighs than my normal ski's.
Additionally, everyone who's tried them has gone and spent their hard earned on a pair.
If you're near the midlands anytime you're welcome to try them at the snowdome.
http://www.lockwoods.uk.com/ are doing them for £130 right now.
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I used to use Snowblades. But I used snowblades to learn to ski. Why? Because a serious leg injury made it extremely painful for me to snowplough all day on long skis. I could do it on snowblades and anyway, I progressed quicker to parallel turns on blades than I would have done on long skis. I got lessons from a BASI trainer, and learned to ski properly on snowblades. He also taught me to carve on snowblades and extremely good it was too. When I felt I'd reached a reasonable standard, and the instructor said so, I gradually increased the length of the skis ( from 99 to 120, 137, 147 and now 155 i.e. a DIY ski evolutif) until I'm now using 155's (probably the right length for me). I could still do all the things I'd done before on blades, but now on longer skis. It was always my intention to learn to ski properly, not to mess about. For me, snowblades achieved that, and without them I'd not be skiing.
I agree, there are an awful lot of people out there on blades who are out of control, possibly because any inline skater can have a go and get about, but without learning the slope discipline that comes with ski/board school, although this appears to have eluded a proportion of skiers and boarders too. For a purpose blades are good. I'd say they are good if you want to learn to carve, although skis are pretty good for that too. They are also pretty good if you want to learn mogul technique, IMO. They are great fun and it is awesome to be able to carve and crank over and get your hand down on every turn. Now I've sold mine, and just have long skis, but I will always remember them with affection.
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Stemondo, I have a pair of Line blades (can't remember exact model/length) and have been thinking about selling, if you're interested send PM and I'll dig out the details. They're hardly used and in top notch condition.
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what was this evidence, exactly? There are a number of reasons why a survey could give a false impression. Not that I'm saying they're more dangerous.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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There is a lot of rubbish posted on the merits of various skis and ski versus blades.
I've been sking for 20 years+ and apart from the first few years have always skied on the best I could afford, Starting out in the not so bad old days of pre-carvers I learned the classic close stanse tecnique. I got my first salomon 99's about 10 years ago in Tignes during a two day white out when we couldn't get up the hill at all. It was love at first ski. Top tip keep in that close stanse and ski them like a mono ski - anyone remenber them ?
I love the way they carve and how I can lean back to control speed in the crud at the piste edge, and ski backwards and sidewards take bumps and just a**e around.
I'm on my second pair of 99's - lost one off a lift in Val d'Isere - and also a pair of Atomic 120's. The Atomics I thought would be more ski like, infact they're far too ski like and don't have the sheer exuberance of blades. I still have them and may give them a second try one day.
Fave ski of all time is still my Salomon Superforce 3S's 15 years old and still going strong. They can catch air off each turn if you press them!
Tried several carvers and still not really impressed but am thinking I should invest in a top pair of short slalom carvers next. Prob try before I buy though.
Sorry off the point and rambling.... Salomon 99's are GR8T! but you have to know how to use them.....
Last edited by And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. on Thu 18-02-10 23:27; edited 1 time in total
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Ancient Skier,
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lean back to control speed in the crud
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you have to know how to use them.....
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So like a tool then??!!
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You know it makes sense.
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Ancient Skier, Top trolling resurrecting a 2.5 year old thread to repost your first post of snowlerblade propaganda. I'm persuaded. Just off to buy some jeans rear entry boots and a jester hat.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Stemondo, buy the pink ones faggot....
okbye
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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the_doc,
What is there to discuss?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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don't do i............
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More of a conclusion than a conversation starter lol
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surely if people actually could ski first before using them they wouldnt be dangerous , maybe i am biased because i could ski before i used them so i just did what i normally do just on them instead of ski's about a meter longer and cant think how the skiboards can actually be dangerous as i was always fully in control and i spose more so than on my 152's as they are slower , i think what happens is useless hopeless people get put on a pair of short skis/skiboards/snowblades for an afternoon they think its easy then get attached to them without learning the rest of what they need to learn
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harriet wrote: |
surely if people actually could ski first before using them they wouldnt be dangerous , maybe i am biased because i could ski before i used them so i just did what i normally do |
From what I see you are in a small minority. Most people I see on very short skis are barely in control, employing the worst of all habits to change direction (I hesitate to use the phrase "make turns"). Very occasionally I see someone on blades/skiboards who skis well, but they really are the exception. I really don't have a problem with the kit - it's just another way of sliding down the mountain - but I do have great concerns about the majority of people I see on blades/skiboards.
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rob@rar, you've seen one change direction? That's a first.
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