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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
I take it that ise man accepting DGs last contribution on mysky sports has driven DG back here.  |
I am surprised they cleared DG out. I have read that board, though I do not participate in it. I would have thought they would value an additional poster.
There is normally no other fekker on it. They are just talking amongst themselves. ise does a blog and snowbunny/bandit replies - if he is lucky. It would be easier if they just texted one another.
It's a shame because ise did know his stuff on Switzerland
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...and the northern French Alps.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Just for the record I've no particular issue with ise or PG. Both seem to be a credit to the human ski race. www.mysnowsports.com is a perfectly good ski forum, but they should go a bit lighter on running it like a pair of proprietors. Any forum essentially has to be the 'property' of its community, reflecting the character of its contributors, not its 'owners'.
In the good old days all three of us - though ise most certainly got the scoop and it was a mobile phone call to PG in Bourg St Maurice which put it into 'print' - collaborated on a very hot news story on this very forum. It concerned a serious incident on the Grande Motte cablecar, Tignes. It's a classic example of how the net can achieve remarkable results in news terms.
Sadly, competing egos can have a mutually negative outcome. I personally think the environmental issue for skiing is a million times more significant than any other matter, and the first thing is to establish simple truths and scientific facts. Egos shouldn't get in the way, and I'm sorry if I sometimes overdo it.
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David Goldsmith, A point for you to ponder.
Are we, today, at greater risk from Nuclear Winter than Global Warming.
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Good question. On that point has everyone seen the terrifying 1966 BBC film 'The War Game' which was banned for nearly 20 years because it was considered too horrific for the public to cope with? Here's what it was about:
The War Game [Wikipedia page]
I remember a showing being given at school in the 1960s - for some reason they allowed private screenings. It's one of the most chilling and realistic things one could ever watch, particularly in the perspective of its age.
I don't think there's a threat of nuclear winter, but there's most certainly a threat of terrorist use of a dirty bomb, partly thanks to Bloody Blair.
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P.S. I've just checked my email and found this message (it wasn't a total surprise given what was posted above):
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Your account at MySnowSports - going downhill fast has been suspended.
Reason for Suspension
smugness, insufferable moral superiorly [sic] and general boorish behaviour |
In other words, the rules of mysnowsports were not broken. Gosh, that's a relief.
All that had happened, BTW, is that one of the forum's proprietors - ise - had stated that I don't ski any more. I posted that I'd skied since 1959 and was expecting to be skiing in 2029 and added (for good measure) that he'd published an untruth.
These ski forum proprietors very occasionally get a bit itchy with the big red button, don't they!
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| .........BTW, is that one of the forum's proprietors - ise - had stated that I don't ski any more. I posted that I'd skied since 1959 and was expecting to be skiing in 2029 and added (for good measure) that he'd published an untruth............ |
Hmm. There may be all sorts of good reasons whey a snowhead no longer skis (and it wouldn't bar him/her from being a snowhead). But you claim that you do. Given that no one I know of has skied with you in recent years, and you yourself have never offered details of your recent skiing here you are in stark contrast to most other high-posting members of this forum who say they ski. We know they do - because we - or our mates - see them doing so. I can see where ise was coming from.
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David Goldsmith, Since the issue seems to wind so many people up (not sure why, myself) have you considered telling them why you are either actually taking a break from skiing, or pretending to do so?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Goldsmith,
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| I don't think there's a threat of nuclear winter, but there's most certainly a threat of terrorist use of a dirty bomb, partly thanks to Bloody Blair. |
The threat from this kind of device comes mainly from the fear generated by the word 'nuclear'. You have done your best to spread paranoia regarding anything nuclear, without even checking your facts. Your misleading statements about Chernobyl's children, in this very forum, being a prime example of your ill-informed, anti-nuclear rhetoric. If Blair is partly to blame, then you, and people like you, have played your part too.
You call nuclear power 'unacceptable' while at the same time advocating the use of nuclear powered trains. Clearly, your position is a confused one.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
P.S. I've just checked my email and found this message (it wasn't a total surprise given what was posted above):
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Your account at MySnowSports - going downhill fast has been suspended.
Reason for Suspension
smugness, insufferable moral superiorly [sic] and general boorish behaviour |
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Don't take it personally. That was just ise, in confessional mode, talking about himself.
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| achilles wrote: |
| I can see where ise was coming from. |
As far as I can see he's coming from a distinguished family of bouncers.
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You know it makes sense.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| plectrum, in answer to your question I travel around london by oyster and shell out regularly to top up this pearl of a smartcard (the interesting thing is that skiing pioneered exactly the same transponder as a liftpass). Most travel (e.g. today East Finchley-Victoria return) is by bike: an excellent (British made) Claud Butler. I used to use a skateboard for short distances (e.g. pillar box), but it was stolen. I haven't owned a car since August 2004 but sometimes rent a halo. |
Then I commend you and wlecome your non hypocritical viewpoint! Although I don't have a problem with heli skiing I do have a problem with the many lazy london residents who I believe would have a more fulfilling life if they cycled / walked / skated round their beautiful city rather than clog up the roads with short indulgent car journeys.
Sayinh that David, you still haven't answered my other point, check the selkirk helisking website and tell me that doesn't look incredibly enticing.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| .....These ski forum proprietors very occasionally get a bit itchy with the big red button, don't they! |
Pity it doesn't happen here more often 
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Poster: A snowHead
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| achilles wrote: |
| I can see where ise was coming from. |
As far as I can see he's coming from a distinguished family of bouncers. |
Resorting to personal abuse of ise does not get round him having reasonable grounds for his viewpoint concerning your skiing..
spyderjon, amen.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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David Goldsmith,
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| In other words, the rules of mysnowsports were not broken. |
Yes they were! Your use of bad langauge saw to that.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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David Goldsmith, Bump!
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Since the issue seems to wind so many people up (not sure why, myself) have you considered telling them why you are either actually taking a break from skiing, or pretending to do so?
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Hurtle, You have'nt been here that long have you.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| I travel around london by oyster and shell out regularly to top up this pearl of a smartcard (the interesting thing is that skiing pioneered exactly the same transponder as a liftpass). |
Not quite. Liftpasses are 'vicinty' cards based on ISO 15693. Oyster cards are 'proximity' cards based on ISO 14443.
Hurtle, pedantry comes in many guises. 
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Dale Goldsmith, Long enough to know when questions are being deliberately ignored!
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laundryman, Blimey, that's not pedantry, that's just impressively arcane knowledge!
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| Dale Goldsmith, Long enough to know when questions are being deliberately ignored! |
And to ask yourself why. 
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Hurtle, your question was " .... have you considered telling them why you are either actually taking a break from skiing, or pretending to do so? "
No I haven't. I was not ejected from their cradle of free speech because I don't ski enough to comply with their membership requirements. It's irrelevant, isn't it?
How much skiing is one obliged to execute to participate in a ski forum?
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| ......How much skiing is one obliged to execute to participate in a ski forum? |
Zip. If you are not posturing as being an active skier. Trouble is, you are. ise's comment on your skiing seems fair and reasonable.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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achilles,
I honestly haven't a clue!
David Goldsmith,
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It's irrelevant, isn't it?
How much skiing is one obliged to execute to participate in a ski forum?
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Don't ask me, I don't understand this issue at all, really. But since so many people bang on about it, I also don't understand why you don't scotch the whole thing and tell them if you currently ski and, if not, why not.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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achilles,
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If you are not posturing as being an active skier
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Without wishing to be unduly pedantic...is he?
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Hurtle, would I accuse you of pedantry?
Anyway, to answer you question,
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........ I'd skied since 1959 and was expecting to be skiing in 2029 and added (for good measure) that he'd published an untruth.
These ski forum proprietors very occasionally get a bit itchy with the big red button, don't they! |
As I read that, David wishes us to infer that he has been skiing since 1959 and (since he mentions no change in state) expects to have been skiing continuously until 2029. And that, in saying ise had said he did not actually ski, ie was not a skier now, ise was publishing an untruth. Are you suggesting that David is being devious with his words? Surely not.
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You know it makes sense.
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achilles, 
I suppose David is being devious with his words, I just can't make out why, it seems so completely pointless.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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achilles, On an additional point of pedantry - and mainly to pre-empt David, in case he is in particularly eagle-eyed mode - I think it would be a physical impossibility for anyone to ski continuously between 1959 and 2029!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hurtle, Goldsmith was slated for being on an SCGB committee while not providing evidence that he still skied and therefore had some empathy with the members for whom he was proposing motions on behalf of. His response was to refuse to give any indication of when he last skied. As it was, some of the things he was proposing would have put skiing out of the financial reach of a lot of SCGB members. Living as he does near a major, international rail terminus, and supported by a very large inheritance, he lacks any real connection with the 'average' skier.
The SCGB recognized this problem, and he was duly remove from his position. However, he continues to actively try and put skiing out of the reach of the average bloke in the street by advocating massive hikes in travel costs.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Tim Brown, I'm afraid that I find your post totally non-illuminating, as well as containing some unduly personal (therefore offensive) and un-evidenced allegations.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Tim Brown, or whatever you're called:
Telling the truth isn't a requirement on snowHeads, so you're OK there. It is a requirement on the SCGB forum, which is presumably why you didn't publish those untruths there. I've never proposed motions. I sat on an advisory environmental group only. I don't advocate massive hikes in travel costs. My most recent trips to Swiss/French ski resorts by rail have cost £150 to £200.
I'm not aware that cost is a particular issue here. We are dealing with the future of the atmosphere and snow. Any apparent cheapness of air travel is a result of tax-free aircraft fuel etc. and airlines not being taxed to finance extraction of CO2 from the atmosphere.
Are you a member of the Ski Club of Great Britain under a genuine name, or is Tim Brown a false name? Are you willing to prove your ID by meeting some fellow members face to face?
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David Goldsmith,
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| Are you a member of the Ski Club of Great Britain under a genuine name, or is Tim Brown a false name? Are you willing to prove your ID? |
Yes to the first part and no to the second. I don't have to prove anything to you and I certainly don't have to pay you a visit in London to do so.
Cost remains an issue for many people, whether you want to admit it or not.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hurtle, sorry you find the truth about Goldsmith offensive. Maybe you could change your name to turtle and stick your head back inside your shell where he is concerned?
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Tim Brown, you mentioned a while back that you had met one (only) other member of the Ski Club of Great Britain. Who was that lucky person?
By the way, going on the aggressive will get you nowhere, young man. You're in enough trouble already.
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David Goldsmith,
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| I don't advocate massive hikes in travel costs. My most recent trips to Swiss/French ski resorts by rail have cost £150 to £200. |
And that just proves my point. It would cost some people more than that just to get to London. For someone living in Scotland, for example, it would be a massive hike in cost.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
Tim Brown, you mentioned a while back that you had met one (only) other member of the Ski Club of Great Britain. Who was that lucky person?
By the way, going on the aggressive will get you nowhere, young man. You're in enough trouble already. |
Old news. I've now met about 20 members. What trouble am I in? Oh, I'm soooo scared! Sounds like a threat. A legal one?
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That's strange. No one ever seems to have met you.
These 20 members you say you've met - can you drop a couple of names of people who could confirm that they've met Tim Brown?
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David Goldsmith, christ, I don't know, I just got their first names, most of which I have now forgotten. I didn't think I'd have to keep a diary for you to examine! When one considers that there are 30,000 members, it isn't at all surprising that you haven't, by complete luck, bumped in to one who a) has met me and b) actually remembers. As a matter of fact, when I meet people skiing or socially I don't normally give my surname out and nor to the people I meet. But then most of us aren't actively stalking someone!
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