Poster: A snowHead
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kitenski,
I have bought most of my skis without testing usaully because they are cheap
In your situation though unless the Missions are cheap I am not sure that I would buy them. If they are unique you may decide they are not for you. If they are similair to other skis surely you could test something very similair to them at Easter and you may well be able to get them at a much cheaper price as this is when a lot of places sell of stock. You will also know for sure that this is the right type of ski for you.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Same as T Bar, . Despite advised various people to demo before buying, I have done so 4 times out of 5 pairs (6 if you include cross-country). Largely after discussing with others, reading reviews. I have tested skis which I have decided I don't like. Demoing in resort has become a lot easier in the last 10 years.
For most of us non-expert skiers I think we can get too hung up on how a ski feels when we first put it on, which is probably more about how it interacts with our bad habits. It is probably rude to suggest this as a newbie who didn't come to the Castleford tests, but I also wonder about the point in testing fat skis in a fridge...
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Mon 13-11-06 23:08; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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THanks JT
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I bought my B2's on Ebay without testing,saved over £200
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Powderhound, I test skis all year and am never confused, it's all about what you do with the information available.
The DP Pro is a an easy choice to make, however most of the people on this forum seem to be looking for skis that are heavily marketed, where there is a huge choice, so they are very intrested in what others think. While this is a good idea, i think it's important to start building up a mental image of ones own. Even if you test one ski in many conditions, you've started to build up information.
Far be it for someone to get something out of testing skis, they may end up having an intresting perspective of certain skis, they may even feel like contradicting you!
To suggets people shouldn't test skis as it will just confuse them, is patronising at best.
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I have and liked them alot, (I also got some grief on this forum for doing so, How times change )
I have spent this last year testing loads so I now got a very good Idea what I like and can ski. So in the future I will buy blind again.
I agree with the comments that tests loads of skis does get confusing as you cannot test all skis in equal but different conditions at the same.
It will be interesting to get back on my own in Jan and see how they feel after all the others I have tried.
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Powderhound, Agreed. Ski testing is hugly subjective and if you get chance to read some of the Large-ones post about working on the World Cup, then you'll now Symmetrical testing for the best is virtually impossible.
So with that in mind how do people choose a ski. As you correctly point out, there is too much B@ll@cks spoken of around skiing, so whom do you choose to belive?
The Collegue, whom wants you to buy as they have, just to re-enforce their choice?
The Forum Skier, whom you don't know but enjoy their posts? How well do they ski and who are they, REALLY?
The Ski salesman, who will sell you what he can and under the cover of the shop will naturally know more than you, after all that's why he works there, isn't it?
For this reason, find a shop that will let you test skis, you have nothing to lose. You need a point of referance, if you haven't got one, how the hell can you help anyone to help you?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Powderhound, are you big? I ask because it makes much less difference to a big bloke who may (probably will) dominate whatever skis he has on his feet, compared to a smaller, lighter skier who needs the touch element.
The skis I bought unskied were Kastle RX national Team SLs - red ones just before the gold ones. They were planks - OK if skied very aggresively, but otherwise ghastly. Now I like touch skiing ... I couldn't even give the things away. Also, I believe that everyone has a ski that just feels "right" to them. Several Snowheads have tested quite heavily lately, and a couple of then have found this ski. No testing and they would never know this feeling at all. Are you thinking that none of them are good enough skiers to feel any difference? It rather sounds like it. Can you?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I expect that even is Powderhound isn't big he must be a bit of a monster if he's skiing 201 DP Pros and enjoying the experience
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Apparently Ellis Brigham are getting a further order of Missions in.
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You know it makes sense.
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Yes, I'm told one of the UK Scott guys wanted to drive them in but customs didn't approve so they're being couriered for about a week's time.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Just to chip in with a wee comment, I reckon you get to a stage where you can feel the difference, after which you need to test skis. Sure, anyone good enough can ski on anything - but if it's for recreation and you're not getting them for "free" - it's worth finding ones you like.
That said, everything I tried at the PSB - from Atomic ST:12s to BD Verdicts felt exactly the same - just like fingernails being scratched down a blackboard.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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David Murdoch, I agree about the standard, but I reckon that even below that level peeps can still find the ski that feels just perfect on your feet. they might not be able to accurately revu a ski for various characteristics, but they will feel perfect.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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easiski, Arno, 6'1" and 105 kgs. Use them for touring too...
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Powderhound, please post a video of you performing a kick-turn
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ok, I am buying without testing too. I wonder if they really will work, but the Head Super Monsters iM103 from a couple of years back are going to be mine tomorrow. Anyway, I am looking for float, long lines and hard ski - guess that's it really. If it takes me down some groomed piste occasionally too, all the better. What the heck, I might even try some speedskiing on them too!
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I'm not sure how to upload a picture - a luddite at heart...
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easiski, Good and fair point. Actually, reminiscing a little, I wonder whether my recollection of not being able to tell, at any given point, a good ski was just that I hadn't to that point skied on one. Plus the whole skinny ski experience where I think you really did have to pay good money for good skis.
Arno, I think 201 DP Pros sound like a whole bunch of fun. I understand SZK has them to test...
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