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Heard a rumour that Swiss skiing may continue but only Swiss or local (within canton etc) - was a friend of a friend so would love to know if anyone in CH or well connected has heard the same?
Was in Graubünden over summer and people were predicting even then that winter may well be Swiss-only.
Can’t see our family going anyway with the threat of any of our kids having to self isolate (due to contact with a positive case in school) hanging over our season but am still interested.
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| blind_raven wrote: |
Can I make the remark that there might as well be a decision soon? All this back and forth is just creating a lot of uncertainty. Plenty of people still trying to book or wondering if they're gonna lose money on their original booking, and just in general giving hope where there either shouldn't be any, or should be clear how it works.
All of these resorts that put in the effort to test daily staff, to come up with the right solutions and now they have to suffer the uncertainty of a bunch of figure heads playing a game of "will they/won't they?"
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How do you “make a decision” when you don’t have the facts, or the data your decision base on are changing every few days?
Option 1, make a random decision and stick with it, even if new data shows it’s a bad decision
Option 2, Make a “best guess” decision and change it when new data indicates it needs changing.
Option 3, wait for a bit and then make a decision and hope it’s a good one so it won’t need to be changed too frequently.
Which option will you do if you need to make that decision?
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I see this thread has already degenerated, with people bewailing their terrible hardship of not being able to go skiing and asking unanswerable questions about resort X in mid March. 
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@pam w, it can’t be helped. There’s no new “update” yet. So it’ll either be filled with speculation, or drops off to the bottom due to no new post.
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Yep, as was mentioned earlier, it was enviably going to move to 'rumours, hopes and frustrations' but as long as it's still skiing related and doesn't descend into a big argument about covid stats and R numbers, then that's fine by me.
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| Skimum1 wrote: |
Heard a rumour that Swiss skiing may continue but only Swiss or local (within canton etc) - was a friend of a friend so would love to know if anyone in CH or well connected has heard the same?
Was in Graubünden over summer and people were predicting even then that winter may well be Swiss-only.
Can’t see our family going anyway with the threat of any of our kids having to self isolate (due to contact with a positive case in school) hanging over our season but am still interested. |
I've not heard anything like that, and hoteliers here are reporting decent levels of bookings for Christmas.
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@telford_mike, thanks, good to know 
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Made this point on another thread but I wonder if the SNP will show solidarity with the EU and close the Scottish resorts too 
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| pam w wrote: |
| I see this thread has already degenerated, with people bewailing their terrible hardship of not being able to go skiing and asking unanswerable questions about resort X in mid March. |
Asked for people's thoughts and opinions, obviously no one can predict what's going to happen, not 'bewailing' anything. If I can't go I can't go, but thanks for your useful input.
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Unless Switzerland is persuaded to close also the situation in France will result in riots or worse.
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I just read in Slovenian news, that EU comission said that responsibility or authority to close or open ski places is on national governments. If I get this right, this means there's not gonna be EU wide ban on skiing, and each country can decide on their own. So I guess it's safe to say, Austria will be open, which means I just need to figure out if it's perfectly legal for me to cross the border and go skiing there, or do I need to get excuse that I go there for work (based on my profession, piece of cake to make up excuse to go skiing for work )
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You know it makes sense.
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My question was, what peoples thoughts were on the reasoning behind the mid January reopening, and wether it was to facilitate for the reopening for the rest of the season or not as per the title thread.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Kevin Loughran wrote: |
| My question was, what peoples thoughts were on the reasoning behind the mid January reopening, and wether it was to facilitate for the reopening for the rest of the season or not as per the title thread. |
The simple answer is no-one knows - the resorts will definitely hope that opening later will increase the chances of staying open for the rest of the season. But it just needs cases to start to rise again, and a dreaded third wave - and they'll quickly shut everything down again.
And just my own bug-bear, I wish people would stop talking about 'mid-jan' (not your fault, it's in the thread title I know!!!)
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Kevin_Loughran CH is the country code for Switzerland (Confederatio Helvetica), like GB is for Great Britain. The thing about CH Is that they currently seem to be determined to stay open for the season, although rates are high in areas like the Valais (Verbier 4 Vallées, Crans-Montana, Nendaz etc.) at the moment. They also currently have no requirement for UK citizens entering the country to quarantine or isolate. Hence a lot of discussion about them possibly being the principal ALpine destination for Brits hoping to ski this winter. You can in fact go Weekend skiing as of now in Verbier, for example, but your constraint is (a) that you're not supposed to leave the UK (b) you may have trouble getting satisfactory travel insurance as CH is not on the Foreign Office approved list and (c) you'd have to quarantine for 14 days on your return. Additional to all this uncertainty, there's the added issue that we lose the EHIC cover with the EU and Reciprocal EHIC cover with Switzerland as of 1.1.21 as well. So there are a huge range of unknowns and the various threads just keep cycling 'round the same speculation.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Thu 26-11-20 16:26; edited 2 times in total
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Thanks guys. Always seen CH and knew it was to do with Switzerland and did Google it but couldn't find anything regarding what the initials were. I guess we'll know nothing until closer to the time. Hopefully this lockdown works but seemingly getting worse before it gets better here in the UK.
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Castex announced today that resorts can open for Xmas, but the lifts are to remain closed.....
“Come to the resorts, enjoy the mountain air and spend time in the shops” he said
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| Kevin Loughran wrote: |
| My question was, what peoples thoughts were on the reasoning behind the mid January reopening, and wether it was to facilitate for the reopening for the rest of the season or not as per the title thread. |
don't worry we think you're fine asking the question and indeed for a first post it's easier to slip into an existing thread on the topic. But as everyone has said it's really too early to tell (and may remain so up until the day you are due to travel). We could see a U, V, W or indeed L or _ shape when it comes to resort shutdowns
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Hmm, resorts open lifts closed. Wonder how many people will be hit by the mad skidoo driver rushing back down to tow the next skier up.
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| Timbobaggins wrote: |
| Wonder how many people will be hit by the mad skidoo driver rushing back down to tow the next skier up. |
+ no grooming, safety markings or avalanche control, what could possibly go wrong.
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@fixx,
no snow, no rando ... 
Mrs U just got rando boots too and I can tell she's itching to use 'em
At this rate, I can get her skins for xmas and they'll still be a surprise when she unwraps them. Also, cue, "Darling, how lovely! What are they?)
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Thu 26-11-20 18:09; edited 1 time in total
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@ChrisWo,
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Plus of course you don't have to deal with as many questions about economic support for the businesses that can now open
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Yeah, you just have to deal with the long term fallout from business failures ...
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You know it makes sense.
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EasyJet just cancelled my family's flights to Geneva in February (just before half term), so things are not looking too rosy!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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@under a new name, just talking to someone and my big fear is that those who actually go to a resort at Xmas, and what with shops open, might consider renting Rando gear, if only to skin up the piste, and then ski down, but their skill-sets might be such that they can't ski unprepared pistes and injure themselves ending up in the hospital.
And that's not taking into account those that will go and try it away from the resort and potentially be a bigger drain on resources.
Then Ski touring will end up being banned again 
I'm sort of mentally preparing myself for this scenario for the two or so weeks we'll be out before resorts open.
If we get the snow then I at least hope that they'll prepare XC pistes ?
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@under a new name, I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing, just that it's rational from some perspectives!
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@Weathercam, I don't think that's really truly a big problem, do you? I can't see it. Anyway, even here there isn't that much rando kit for hire.
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@under a new name, in Serre Che could be a problem as we have so much available terrain and many shops rent rando gear.
I only have to look at FaceBook and see people extolling the virtues of Rando and how that's going to be the thing to do, and a few of these are people who have only been out with me once or twice in nigh on perfect Spring snow conditions.
December, Jan is totally different as you know.
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No tourists will go rando.
Because it sucks.
You spend 2hrs plodding uphill in freezing cold, and 2mins sliding down on half-skis.
Touring is for ski nerds.
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Hopefully Fife will get back down to level 2 before the snow arrives.
Eh??
