 Poster: A snowHead
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| Roguevfr wrote: |
| Gauntlet gloves will fail in rain under every circumstances since the rain runs into them via the sleeves. Sleeves over gtx gloves is the only way forward. |
This is a point that is not often raised.
I like Gauntlet Gloves from an ease of use pov, but I do have gloves that go inside the sleeves of the Jacket for when it's raining. Given I usually go in Jan or early Feb, rain is seldom a problem....but I suspect may become more of an issue with global warming.
In early Feb 2020, we arrived in Arc 1600 in the rain and the following day had very soggy skiing. I had never encountered rain before late Jan / early Feb at this height.
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I solve this particular problem by - bear with me - putting the jacket sleeve over the gauntlet on the rainy days. Genius I know 
Buying a new jacket is the obvious answer, but tbh, I like gauntlets for the rest of the time (and the jacket is in every other way perfect for me, and the sleeves are only really about 1/2 “ short).
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| Roguevfr wrote: |
| Gauntlet gloves will fail in rain under every circumstances since the rain runs into them via the sleeves. . |
Not in all circumstances….. if it rains just ski with you hands pointing up to the sky. Simple’s 
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@Old Fartbag,
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This is a point that is not often raised.
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'Cos, who skis in the rain?
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| under a new name wrote: |
'Cos, who skis in the rain? |
Those who only get 6 days skiing per year, so can't be too choosy. 
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@Old Fartbag, or, I suppose, those skiing in Scotland (of which I have done much)
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@Old Fartbag, or, I suppose, those skiing in Scotland (of which I have done much)
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Thanks for spotting those - Have ordered a pair in XL to take a look, and will report back.
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @Old Fartbag, or, I suppose, those skiing in Scotland (of which I have done much) |
That used to happen occasionally when I was a kid at Glenshee, but I wouldnt even get out my bed if there was potential rain these days !!
All my Scottish skiing is in bluebird conditions on quiet (non school holiday) days.
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I’m in the 6-13 days/year skiiing category, and having pre-paid on that ~€70/day lift pass, my Yorkshire genes take over. I don’t need to be out for long to feel I’ve got my vfm though.
I actually generally enjoy it, in a perverse, masochistic way - I tend to like doing drills anyway, so practising soft knees etc in low viz always gives me something back for the effort. Just don’t like putting those gloves back on after a break when they’re sopping wet - it’s the cold hands that generally send me back home.
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| Pejoli wrote: |
Thanks for spotting those - Have ordered a pair in XL to take a look, and will report back. |
I found the Lobster Claw version at my local TK Maxx, which does have a removable liner.....but the 3 in 1 info is absent from the Glove version. Either way, you have a really good glove at a third of its RRP - and which can be returned to any TK Maxx store if not suitable.
I look forward to hearing how it works out.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Pejoli, How did the Reusch gloves work out?
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Finally found the time to reply. Well the gloves are pretty nice - the leather feels maybe a bit softer than my Hestra started out at, but they look well put together, I like the four way stretch and the cinch mechanism at the cuff, and they are pretty warm on the hands as far as I can judge in the living room. The XL size is actually a 9.5 which just about fits me. I’m impressed enough that I’ve ordered my wife a pair in mediums to try.
But…. As you suspected @Old Fartbag, the liners on the glove model are non-removable (unlike your lobsters), which was one of my key criteria. So I’m debating whether to keep them as main/back up winter gloves for when the Hestras give up the ghost.
Regardless I will also continue looking to see if if I can find something that would also cover my spring needs too - Im considering ordering a pair of Dakine Leather Titans which also appear to fit the brief (and my last Dakines have only just gone in the bin after 24 years when sons wrist guards finally overstressed the palms in his first week of snowboarding - even being beaten up and semi-duct tape, they still retained their waterproofing really impressively). Anyone with experience of that model? Other option may be a pair of Burtons.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Pejoli, Thanks for getting back.
It's worth noting, that if you register the gloves with Reusch - which requires a photo of the receipt and the gloves themselves - they will repair them FOC for 5 years: https://www.reusch.com/int/en/more/
Nb. In my case, it took a couple of days for them to give me my personal warranty number - which ended up in the spam folder.
I'd keep them - as they are great quality for what they cost....and you never know when they may prove useful.
In the past, I looked at buying Titans - but in the end didn't, so can't comment.
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Hi there
Thread bump I know but I was looking for something else and then stumbled into this thread and specifically the question of removable liner Vs Gore-tex. It also looks like this has been bumped several times already so I hope you don't all mind reopening this topic.
Fyi I have an older pair of Hestra heli with both Gore-tex *and* removable fleecey liners.
Does anyone know if hestra do reconditioning repairs?
Not being able to buy a direct replacement does bother me for when these wear out eventually. While incidentally I need to pull a couple of stitches into the join of my thumb, I think eventually when they pass to glove heaven it will be the friction of ski poles straps wearing through the fabric backing of the hand.
Kind regards
Chris
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| Roguevfr wrote: |
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| So is there any technical reason why they can't just let the Gore Tex version also has removable liners? |
Because the fixed construction protects the integrity of the goretex lining. |
P s. I'm pretty sure it's probably cost and not durability that caused Hestra to dump doing both at the same time. I guess that because once the liners are removed they're not raw Gore-tex on the inside; there's still another fabric not too dissimilar to a lighter weight version of the fabric from the back of the hand between skin and the delicate gore lining.
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| Pejoli wrote: |
Applying a bit of light CPR to this thread, but I’m in a similar situation, looking for gloves that are gauntlet style (my gibbon arms are just a touch too long for my North Face jacket), goretex as I always seem to somehow end up in rainy conditions, and removable liners so they can perform double duty as spring gloves. My Hestra Pointer gtx gloves fail on all three points, and didn’t quite cut the mustard in yesterdays Tignes downpour - they came home like sponges.
Anyway, noticed Hestra are now producing a gtx glove that seems to fit all of the above criteria - albeit at a significant price (liners extra  ): https://www.hestragloves.us/army-leather-heli-ski-gtx-r-gore-grip-technology-black
Anyone have, or tried on a pair ? |
I’ve got a pair and they’re fantastic; very warm but not sweaty. Not yet managed to try them out in anything other than light rain/sleet but they stayed waterproof and warm in those conditions and the leather didn’t get too soggy (I do use the leather balm supplied by Hestra though).
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I have an old pair of Hestra Heliski 3 finger lobster mittens, they have a 5 fingered removable liner which I love as I find it gives extra dexterity. They’ve been well used and I want to replace them with an identical pair. However I can only find 3 fingered gloves with 3 fingered inserts.
I thought I had solved it when I found the gore-tex version had a 5 fingered liner so I ordered straight away, but when they arrived to my dismay I found the liner was not removable.
One of the things I really love about my current pair is being able to remove the liner to dry it out thoroughly at the end of the day (and to give it a was from time to time)
Has Hestra just stopped making the 3 fingered mitten with 5 fingered removable liner?
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That’s the option I’m considering - but I don’t really want to pay extra for a second set of liners if I can avoid it.
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The older Gore-tex version also used to have removable liner. At least the five finger did.
The newer versions only have removable liner in non Gore-tex version. The gore version is not removable liner. (At least as far as 5 fingers go).
Those liners can all be bought separately I thought. Have you looked at those?
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| Blackblade wrote: |
| Pejoli wrote: |
Applying a bit of light CPR to this thread, but I’m in a similar situation, looking for gloves that are gauntlet style (my gibbon arms are just a touch too long for my North Face jacket), goretex as I always seem to somehow end up in rainy conditions, and removable liners so they can perform double duty as spring gloves. My Hestra Pointer gtx gloves fail on all three points, and didn’t quite cut the mustard in yesterdays Tignes downpour - they came home like sponges.
Anyway, noticed Hestra are now producing a gtx glove that seems to fit all of the above criteria - albeit at a significant price (liners extra ): https://www.hestragloves.us/army-leather-heli-ski-gtx-r-gore-grip-technology-black
Anyone have, or tried on a pair ? |
I’ve got a pair and they’re fantastic; very warm but not sweaty. Not yet managed to try them out in anything other than light rain/sleet but they stayed waterproof and warm in those conditions and the leather didn’t get too soggy (I do use the leather balm supplied by Hestra though). |
Well after a couple of years of dithering, I’ve just ordered a pair - £50 off at alpine trek (so only very expensive, rather than stupidly). I will report back.
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Very slightly off topic, but I’m trying to establish whether Hestra Czone Pointer and Hestra Czone All Mountain lobster gloves have removable liners, or whether the liners are sewn in. Hestra’s website refers to attached liners, which perhaps suggests that they are sewn in. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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So, if your Gore-Tex boots feel like a sauna in warmer weather, chances are the gloves might do the same. And if your current gloves are leaking like a sieve, it's time for an upgrade. Give the newer version a shot or explore other brands/models with better waterproofing.
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I have maybe seven year old czone 5 fingers, and they are attached ie sewn in - they are at that sort of price point in the hestra range.
No knowledge on the lobsters, but my money would be on the same,
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You know it makes sense.
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If you kow how long a Hestra glove lasts, it is not realy a good idea to have Gortex membrane, as the membrane only lasts few years. 
So in the long run and if you tread them well there is no difference in the protection against rain.
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| Hyst wrote: |
If you kow how long a Hestra glove lasts, it is not realy a good idea to have Gortex membrane, as the membrane only lasts few years.
So in the long run and if you tread them well there is no difference in the protection against rain. |
Has that been your experience with hestra goretex gloves ?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Pejoli wrote: |
| Hyst wrote: |
If you kow how long a Hestra glove lasts, it is not realy a good idea to have Gortex membrane, as the membrane only lasts few years.
So in the long run and if you tread them well there is no difference in the protection against rain. |
Has that been your experience with hestra goretex gloves ? |
Not really as I am on my first par of Hestra Gloves, still do the job after 15 years - only changed the inner glove.
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