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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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It looks like the c19testing tests (they supply two types) both test for the n protein, although for the outbound leg I might be tempted to book a PCR to be sure.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I think most (all?) of the UK ones test for the “nucleocapsid antigen” which is the N Protein. The Local France are saying that “rules out most antigen tests” - which looks to be nonsense. It took me ten seconds to google nucleocapsid antigen and every hit says “…or N Protein”.
Looked back at an old certificate and that states nucleocapsid antigen test.
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chronomics.com do test for the N protein on their antigens (I just checked my test I did a few days ago to come back).
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Useful - pretty much every one that isn’t “unknown” targets nucleocapsid or the N Protein as required by France. What on earth are The Local on about?
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Same for C19Testing. Sample certificate on this page clearly shows detecting the N Protein.
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@X5OT76, I've been to and back from france a few times recently and have used PCR and lateral flow tests. I have used NWP as they are a decent price and quick to deliver
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| Jonpim wrote: |
| Same for C19Testing. Sample certificate on this page clearly shows detecting the N Protein. |
That was who we used. Just ordered another for next week.
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Is there anything in the new information as to whether the tests have to be done in a clinic as opposed to at home?
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@andy from embsay, not useful for the bulk of people visiting France! I suspect most are like me non French speakers, unless asking for a beer or the bill, and please and thank you!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| ipken wrote: |
| @X5OT76, I've been to and back from france a few times recently and have used PCR and lateral flow tests. I have used NWP as they are a decent price and quick to deliver |
Just had a quick look and seems a good option. Have you been using the £14.99 ‘fit to fly’ option?
With the LFT do you send them back for a result or is it a case of doing it and then just submitting your result with a picture or something?
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@twoodwar, the useful list of tests is in English? The decree is pretty much as we thought - if vaccinated need a test 48hrs before “the trip”(?), and this can be LF or PCR. LF tests have to detect the N Protein - which from the list above, they pretty much all do.
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You know it makes sense.
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with the LFT do you send them back for a result or is it a case of doing it and then just submitting your result with a picture or something?
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yes exactly, they are the same process as the nhs ones, so you do the test, fill in a form and send picture of the test next to your passport
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I suppose one bonus is 12yos who are unvaxxed have 48hrs to do a pre-flight test, instead of 24hrs that applied previously.
Under 12yo are fine to travel untested I assume?
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Poster: A snowHead
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@hobbiteater, Does the certificate specify what they tested for? I can’t imagine anyone’s really going to check but C19 do, I’m not sure Testing For All did when we used them for coming back to UK in the summer?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@andy from embsay, i was just describing the general process, ive used c19 and randox
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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This was on my certificate for a C19 Lateral flow test in September with C19testing:
This means that at, the time of testing, it is unlikely that you were infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.
The Hughes / ACON Biotech Flowflex SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Test is an immunochromatographic assay for the detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen by nasopharyngeal swab. It has been validated as having a sensitivity of 97%, specificity of 99% and an overall accuracy of 99%.
This rapid antigen test has been approved by the EU and passed assessment by Public Health England in the UK.
This assay is a CE marked IVD in accordance with Directive 98/79/EC. Certification can be confirmed here.
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| Duster wrote: |
This was on my e mail that linked the certificate for a C19 Lateral flow test in September with C19testing:
This means that at, the time of testing, it is unlikely that you were infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.
The Hughes / ACON Biotech Flowflex SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Test is an immunochromatographic assay for the detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen by nasopharyngeal swab. It has been validated as having a sensitivity of 97%, specificity of 99% and an overall accuracy of 99%.
This rapid antigen test has been approved by the EU and passed assessment by Public Health England in the UK.
This assay is a CE marked IVD in accordance with Directive 98/79/EC. Certification can be confirmed here. |
Edit The above text was not on the certificate itself.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Duster wrote: |
This was on my e mail that linked the certificate for a C19 Lateral flow test in September with C19testing:
This means that at, the time of testing, it is unlikely that you were infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.
The Hughes / ACON Biotech Flowflex SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Test is an immunochromatographic assay for the detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen by nasopharyngeal swab. It has been validated as having a sensitivity of 97%, specificity of 99% and an overall accuracy of 99%.
This rapid antigen test has been approved by the EU and passed assessment by Public Health England in the UK.
This assay is a CE marked IVD in accordance with Directive 98/79/EC. Certification can be confirmed here. |
Edit The above text was not on the certificate itself.
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Duplicate post
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@hobbiteater, But France says that 'self administered' tests are not allowed. What is your experience having travelled using LF tests.
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Sorry for my ignorance as haven't travelled abroad since covid blighted our lives so a little unsure as to the process.
If I order from one of the companies, do i then need to send it away and how long I'm advance do I have to do this to make sure the results are back in time?
Thanks
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@chrisjshort, i obvioulsy havent travalled to france under this regime but have used the test for greece and italy. where des it say self adminstered tests arnt allowed?
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@chrisjshort, this is what I'm not sure about. I can't find info on whether at home tests are ok or if you have to do them at a clinic - there's a reasonable difference in cost and hassle
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| chrisjshort wrote: |
| @hobbiteater, But France says that 'self administered' tests are not allowed. What is your experience having travelled using LF tests. |
I think that is for unvaccinated people only (which doesn't include unvaccinated kids travelling with fully vaccinated adults). At least that was the case last time I looked.
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@chrisjshort, I doubt that the "self administered" point is ever going to be resolved to anyone's satisfaction. If I administer the test to my son, is it self-administered?
I've travelled successfully to France, using them, but then again, the French border control didn't actually check.
@no_snow_in_swindon, It depends on which test, from whom. There are options to a) have Lateral Flow (Antigen) tests done on site (e.g. in a Boots), b) do PCR on site and have it sent off to a lab from there, c) do a PCR at home and send them away, d) do lateral flow at home over video link (Qured), e) do lateral flow at home and send a photo of test and passport (Chronomics), f) do lateral flow at home and use an app to give a certificate (Excalibur).
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@Duster, yep, I’ve still got my C19 one from the summer and that definitely shows they test for the N Protein. My Testing for All one from summer didn’t though.
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You know it makes sense.
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Just found this update on France Local:
A government Decree published on Thursday provides more detail.
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/JORFTEXT000044394836
(I've looked at this and cant make head nor tail of it??)
The France Local article says "The new rules come into force at 00.01am on Saturday, December 4th and the testing requirements apply to everyone aged 12 or older – including those who have French citizenship or permanent residency in France.
Non EU
All travellers – vaccinated or not – will require a negative Covid test in order to enter France from any country outside the EU or Schengen zone. This would include travellers from the UK, the USA and Canada.
The test must have been taken within 48 hours of departure. The decree states that only tests “that are able to detect protein N of Sars-Cov2” can be used – this covers all PCR tests but not all antigen tests. Home tests have never been accepted for travel purposes.
All non-EU arrivals must also give a declaration on their honour that they accept that furthering testing can be performed on arrival in France, although it is not clear how systematic this will be."
Guess the press etc will be all over this new announcement? If it is new and I've not got the whole thing wrong! I am beginning to question my own sanity!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@chrisjshort, the local have proven to be an unreliable source.
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Home tests have never been accepted for travel purposes.
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This is rubbish. All major providers do self admistered LF pre departure tests with certificate. And vast majority test N protein
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Oleski wrote: |
@chrisjshort, the local have proven to be an unreliable source.
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Home tests have never been accepted for travel purposes.
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This is rubbish. All major providers do self admistered LF pre departure tests with certificate. And vast majority test N protein |
And the certificate (certainly from C19 as linked above) doesn’t mention how the test was taken. I really think this will be far less of an issue than we think - show them your neg test and vax cert and on you go. I can’t see an agent at the gate checking which protein your test looked for (even though as you say the vast, vasy majority look for N Protein) or who shoved the swab up your nose.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So does anyone know
a) If I fly into GVA and cross straight into France by car, will I need to show a test on the border? I will be doing a LTF to fly into Switzerland but worried it’s the wrong type of test for France.
B) after staying in France for 5 days do I need a new test to come back into Switzerland and straight to GVA to fly home?
I’m so confused.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@andy from embsay, that's my take too. I think the "home test" thing basically means, they won't accept it if you shove a test with one line in there general direction. They want a QR code to confirm the test (wherever it was done) is negative.
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That is the conclusion I'm coming to. Every test provider for 'fit to fly' ('fit to drive through a tunnel' in my case) says it is approved. Although it does state this elsewhere too! If they ask I'll say it was in a clinic.
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| Dannyh101 wrote: |
So does anyone know
a) If I fly into GVA and cross straight into France by car, will I need to show a test on the border? I will be doing a LTF to fly into Switzerland but worried it’s the wrong type of test for France.
B) after staying in France for 5 days do I need a new test to come back into Switzerland and straight to GVA to fly home?
I’m so confused. |
(A) It’s possible you could, but the same test is fine for both CH and F.
(B) No because you’re coming from France - the new decree doesn’t mention anything other than where you’re arriving from.
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But the Swiss rules state that if you've been in the UK in previous 10 (or did it say 14) days you need to do the test. I think!!!
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You could take a spare LF test in case it’s needed at any point? I’ve bought an extra one in case it’s needed or some new rules come in when I am out there
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| chrisjshort wrote: |
| But the Swiss rules state that if you've been in the UK in previous 10 (or did it say 14) days you need to do the test. I think!!! |
Only if you are staying in Switzerland for more than 24 hours
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Ah! - thats good to know as I hope to transit through Switzerland to Austria after a week in Tignes. Thanks
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