 Poster: A snowHead
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I know one person who's had lots of good tuition and doesn't appear to have progressed beyond barely-linked traverses on blues. Most people I've seen with similar amounts of tuition have come on leaps and bounds, certainly able to get around a large resort on piste (if mainly avoiding the steepest blacks and moguls).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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abc,
I think we just have different perspectives... my aunt retired at 65 and proceeded to go to university.. getting first a degree and then her Masters degree in philosophy... Not my cup of tea but obviously something she finds a worthwhile challenge... me i'd prefer to be surfing and skiing at 70...
My mother did a computer course well into her 70's -just a users course but hey.. for her a challenge as she cannot change the time on the microwave clock....
and just do not ask about my grandmother... she raised 4 kids on her own in a country where the language spoken was her third... then ran her own business, married a roman catholic czech orphan despite being heraself a mormon, grew all her own fruit and veg, survived uterine cancer back in the 1940's (only one in the ward to walk out, and the ward glowed at night from the radium rods they used to put in patients), raised the ducks chickens and rabbits she ate, got her licence at around 60, then drove 800km to visit her sister - hailing a truck driver to ask for help re the gears when she had a fight with her husband over which gear you used to go uphill - travelled repeatedly back to her home country of Samoa at >70..., etc etc and died at 97 having been mentally competent until a couple of months before her death...
Oh somewhere in there she learnt smatterings of spanish, italian, and goodness knows what else too... she was never a give up and lay down to die sort... I think that is where my aunts all get it from... they are collectively known as "the dragons" for good reason
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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fatbob, what about the limitation of cash? 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Spikyhedgehog,
there are ways to decrease costs....
In australia by skiing around 50 days a season on a season pass it effectively costs me <$10 a day for lift tickets
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Wear The Fox Hat,
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If a person wants to learn, and is going to good instructors, but is not improving, is it possibly because they have reached the limits of their ability?
In other words, they are incapable of going further.
If not, everyone on here would be Olympic gold medalist (or at least ex-world cup instructors)
Even if you go to the very top of the game - above Fastman and the rest, onto the actual current world cup circuit - why is it that some skiers on that circuit are normally in the top 10, while others struggle to get into the top 30 - is it because they don't want to? No! It's because at the time, they are not capable of it. They WANT TO win, but they are INCAPABLE of winning.
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'swat I said, only longer:
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I think there may come a point at which people stop progressing, they reach their peak in other words: it's again like any other learned skill, for instance not everyone who learns the piano to really quite a high level is good enough to become a concert pianist, and not everyone who skis can actually win races (step forward - on your little rebuilt feet - Chemmy Alcott!)
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Ho hum, nobody ever listens to anything I say. Maybe I need to take lessons from Lizzard on presentation. There again...
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fatbob, what about the limitation of cash?
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And the distraction of other hobbies... (both in time and funds)
OK! Even I can hear I sound like a broken record. I'm repeating myself too much... there's life besides skiing!
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Hurtle, but it's not about what we think, remember!
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| abc wrote: |
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fatbob, what about the limitation of cash?
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And the distraction of other hobbies... (both in time and funds)
OK! Even I can hear I sound like a broken record. I'm repeating myself too much... there's life besides skiing! |
Wasn't suggesting that there wasn't but I'd say rob isn't "lucky" just particularly dedicated to what I am guessing is his main hobby. Remember some people give up more "traditional" careers, move 1000s of miles away from family, retrain as ski pros etc to follow their skiing dreams.
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fatbob,
yeah exactly... rob is not "lucky" but obsessed... I know because I'm a little that way as well... you do not ski 50-70 days in an australian season with a LOT of sacrifice...
I spent a whole chunk of 1 summer working on my roller-blading miles... so I could improve my skiing... worked a treat... but the nervous stress that cost me ... the effort it required to stick those skates on 3 days a week... and then do my homework... arrggghhh .... and the lessons when I would drive the 3.5 hours to my instructor - I spent more time squealing than you'd believe....
In return my balance and co-ordination improved a lot as I developed feedback circuits I had not had... I can now climb through toilet windows and not FALL DOWN(or give up due to lack of ability to balance on window ledge)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| yeah exactly... rob is not "lucky" but obsessed... |
I prefer to think of myself as 'keen' 
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rob@rar,
keen is when you ask a girl for a date...
You're stark raving fanatical just accept it 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Wear The Fox Hat,
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but it's not about what we think
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What isn't 
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Poster: A snowHead
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no such thing as a bad pupil in my book. Everybody learns in different ways, we as ski teachers have to unlock the potential!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| laundryman wrote: |
| I know one person who's had lots of good tuition and doesn't appear to have progressed beyond barely-linked traverses on blues. Most people I've seen with similar amounts of tuition have come on leaps and bounds, certainly able to get around a large resort on piste (if mainly avoiding the steepest blacks and moguls). |
Those who can't ski should quit.
And take up snowboarding.
It is much easier.
Any doofus can look good on a tray.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Whitegold, not this bloke - trust me!
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euangoneskiing,
That would be my take on it... if your PROFESSION is teaching people to ski then expecting student to conform to YOUR teaching method seems a tad weird... because surely part of teaching is to adapt to the STUDENTS...
Having said that I tend to learn better when I leave the agenda to the instructor rather than trying to tell them what I think I need to learn... My job is to learn it as well as I can theirs to find how to teach me best and to decide what I MOST need to learn... (there are many aspects to that bit)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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fatbob, you're not trying hard enough. 2 seasons ago I got 57 days skiing taking only 14 days annual leave. You have to start early (2rd December, Les Gets, one man made run open), finish late (Avoriaz closing weekend) and be prepared to become very familiar with Gatwick Airport (at least there's a Yo Sushi! now).
I response to the question, I think anyone (assume reasonably able bodied, reasonably fit mind and body) can become competent (say S&R scale 7 or so if we must) with adequate practice, decication, motivation and instruction.
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David Murdoch, How reasonable is reasonable and does age come into the equation?
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The answer to the question is . . . yes. But then I don't think that's the idea behind the question, which is a good one. For physical or mental reasons, it doesn't really matter, yes there are. There's a whole world of skiers occupying the range between crap and expert skier. Where a given person ends up in that range is down to a lot of things, I'm not quite sure where decication is in there David Murdoch, but primarily it's down to sporting ability, amount of time spent skiing, tuition and whatever goes on in your head. Continuing to think and act when it gets sketchy or all goes pear shaped is the ultimate differentiator.
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Nickski,
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Continuing to think and act when it gets sketchy or all goes pear shaped is the ultimate differentiator.
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Very, very true of any skill, I reckon, especially if speed has to be maintained - cooking and music-making in my personal experience. And I can imagine lots of others eg brain surgery.
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Hurtle, another one to add to that list is skydiving  , as I needed to remember when I did my first freefall!
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GrahamN, Eek. Rather you than me.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Hurtle, I agree - I just couldn't do the jumping out of the plane thing. On the other hand if they could take me up dangling under the aircraft with the parachute already open and then drop me I'd probably be OK (assuming I could cope with the dangle bit!!)
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