 Poster: A snowHead
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@ster, 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Why are the "sealing" the coaches?
Do they think some channel migrant might try to sneak back into the EU? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I`m likely to be in Europe already when this comes in, I wonder how it will work when I`m coming home? Might there be a possibility of doing all the finger printing stuff in Europe and maybe therefore missing some queues?
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@CaravanSkier, yes, apparently if you’re there already you can register on exit apparently.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| brianatab wrote: |
Why are the "sealing" the coaches?
Do they think some channel migrant might try to sneak back into the EU? |
Because they’re processing coach passengers on the other side of Dover, then driving across the town to get on the boat.
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@CaravanSkier, Scared they wont let you out?
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There are traffic cones and diversions in place all over the Folkestone tunnel terminal. I can only see the usual chaos ahead.
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| ster wrote: |
| @CaravanSkier, Scared they wont let you out? |
Nah, I`d be delighted to stay!
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| andy from embsay wrote: |
| @CaravanSkier, yes, apparently if you’re there already you can register on exit apparently. |
I think that could be a bonus!
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we fly into Tenerife on 9th November and out again on 23rd so hoping we can do the registration on the way back
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@Hells Bells, thanks
"The kiosks will allow up to 2,000 passengers – or 700 vehicles – per hour to undergo the new border checks required as part of the scheme.". one train is 120 cars so that sounds like good capacity even at peak times (although it will take longer to be processed than at present)
"The kiosks have been specially designed to work with vehicles, unlike those in airports which are designed for foot traffic." I wonder how?
"The system “recognises the status of passengers in the vehicle (EU nationals, non-EU travellers to the EU or travellers who already registered with EES),” Getlink said. “On arrival at check-in, the vehicle number plate is read by a camera. The system then combines the vehicle plate number with the advanced passenger information entered by the customer during the booking to determine the vehicle status,” it added. The vehicle will then be guided to the correct lane, preventing those who have already provided information – or do not need to – from joining the wrong queue and increasing wait times. " Hopefully people will understand it.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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“On arrival at check-in, the vehicle number plate is read by a camera. The system then combines the vehicle plate number with the advanced passenger information entered by the customer during the booking to determine the vehicle status,”
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seems a relatively simple and straightforward process combining the ANPR and API systems, must admit i had been wondering how it will be implemented once people have started to cross after registering, and i have been following this thread for some time and cannot remember anyone suggesting this method?
i will just need to make sure all of the passengers in the car i am travelling in next time i go, all have the same checks carried out
with regards to Dover, i have not used this crossing in a couple of decades, do you go through French passport control in the UK, like Eurotunnel, or do you pass through French passport control in Calais?
i have used portsmouth-caen/cherbourg regularly in the last few years and French passport control is carried out when arriving in France, so i assume they will be implementing any biometric registration. last time i went through caen in june, there was some building work being carried out near passport control, but could not tell if it was for this purpose.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@terrygasson, On the ferry french passport control is on this side, given what the Times article said I'm avoiding Dover and sticking to the tunnel until the work is done.
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@radar, cheers, i was not planning to use this ferry route either, as i prefer ET if going from Kent, just could not remember how the passport side was processed in Dover, and was just curious about it. as others have mentioned, Dover does not seem to have the space for this at present.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Might as well rejoin 
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| radar wrote: |
| Might as well rejoin |
The EU was always going to sulk for a decade or more about Brexit. France and Germany know they are the only realistic options to pick up the UK's tab but now Merkel's gone, already Germany is looking to restore free movement to under 30s. France will follow when Micron's gone. Pity Ursula's still there but then it's a cabal so to be expected but she surely must retire by the time she's 70 so there's still hope.
Whatever, they all know that they need UK tourism income more than we need theirs and they're just trying to save face by being as awkward as possible in the immediate aftermath to appease their own citizens, to the detriment of their own economy. It will pass.
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Yawn!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Might as well rejoin Toofy Grin
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Well that's the logical thing to do.
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Hope we find out soon when the date will be.
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You know it makes sense.
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Just at the start of the ski season. Guaranteed.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I saw a dozen terminals at Rome (CIA) last week. All powered up but cordoned off and hold they weren't in use yet (tried my luck to see if I could get ahead of the game).
I've since heard from someone who returned from Naples yesterday, that they'd been scanned and fingerprinted there.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Wouldn't be surprised if they kick it off in January if they're ready. Channel crossings are dead once you get the Christmas rush out of the way until half terms start in February so there's a month where they could bed it in.
It's going to be chaos the first couple of school holidays anyway as that'll be the peak of people hitting the system for the first time.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| paulhinch wrote: |
Wouldn't be surprised if they kick it off in January if they're ready. Channel crossings are dead once you get the Christmas rush out of the way until half terms start in February so there's a month where they could bed it in.
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Noooo! That's when we travel usually.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@adithorp, Same in GVA a few weeks ago.
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| Charliegolf wrote: |
| paulhinch wrote: |
Wouldn't be surprised if they kick it off in January if they're ready. Channel crossings are dead once you get the Christmas rush out of the way until half terms start in February so there's a month where they could bed it in.
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Noooo! That's when we travel usually. |
Same here....we're out on 4th January so I'm assuming they'll bring it in on the 3rd, just for a laugh. At least there'll only be 8 car loads at Eurotunnel though when it all goes wrong.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I wonder if they'll have the common sense to start capturing the biometrics on the 10 Nov where they have the gates in place, even if the biometric checks aren't yet being enforced.
Could smooth out the process when it actually goes live.
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I am not sure that they are legally allowed to collect personal information in advance of the system going live.
I think that after collecting personal information you then have to then process it to be compliant with data protection legislation...you cannot just store it without doing anything with it.
My understanding is that the check takes place as you cross the border so cannot be done in advance.
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Pretty sure they are allowed to capture data so long as it's held securely and used for the purpose intended (e.g. they tell you they're using it to register on the EES system). GDPR would allow that if they made it optional for anyone who wanted to supply it early.
It's not like the data captured and processed at the border gets thrown away. The Fingerprint and Facial stuff is stored for any future journey against that Passport ID.
I'd argue that it'd be worth the EU setting up some border processing centres in major UK cities for the next 12 months where you employ a few Border people from EU countries just to capture details of people ahead of travel if you wanted to do that. I'd certainly pop into Manchester City Centre and get my details registered rather than standing in an airport queue for hours if I could.
It'd smooth the peak of registrations if you did that.
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@paulhinch,
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I'd argue that it'd be worth the EU setting up some border processing centres in major UK cities for the next 12 months where you employ a few Border people from EU countries just to capture details of people ahead of travel if you wanted to do that. I'd certainly pop into Manchester City Centre and get my details registered rather than standing in an airport queue for hours if I could.
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i totally agree about setting up pre-travel centres to capture required info before travel, am sure these could be set up in all the EU countries consulates in the uk, and i would have said in major countries across the globe also, such as the United States and others, that are required to do this for entry into the EU.
i would have thought that it does not even have to be Border control personnel in the consulate, and it could just be consulate staff?
as far as i am aware (i was told this by a brit i was skiing with at easter who has lived in paris for over 20 years), to get a french passport you need to go to your local mairies office to have your fingerprints taken before you can apply for a passport.
i would be happy to pay a small fee, if it can ease any predicted congestion!!
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As I said above, I've heard from someone who was scanned/fingerprinted this week at Naples.
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