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Just an out of interest general question..... what are snow conditions generally like when a resort opens? Will they want a good coating or will they just be happy to open with the just a few runs open nearer the top?

I wonder because I have been watching the Banff area where I am heading in 3 months.... Sunshine looks like it has a reasonable powdering, but Lake Louise is due open friday fortnight and has barely a dusting at mid station....

Adam
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Skiing in late November and early December I've seen resorts open with everything from a few centimetres on a summer pasture with a t-bar working to full mountain cover across several valleys.

When Loveland in Colorado opened last weekend I believe they just ran one chairlift, but their coverage actually looked pretty good. The high-altitude resorts with plenty of snowmaking and a long tradition of opening hotels etc. on a given date will obviously gear themselves up to offer a good choice of runs.

In the Alps there's very little business to be done until Christmas/New Year, however good the snow turns out to be. It's really expensive for resorts to open too early and find that no one turns up to buy tickets. Smaller ski areas like Loveland - especially those that don't involve a big resort infrastructure - can be quite flexible about opening when the snow happens to fall.

In the US, Thanksgiving seems to be quite influential in drawing crowds earlier than Alpine resorts can manage, which is partly why the US ski season gets off to an earlier start.
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Buns, I'm with you on this. Having kept myself busy checking webcams over the past couple of weeks, I have some concerns over the fact that Lake Louise opens on the 11th Nov and seems devoid of the white stuff. I too am heading out that way in 3 months, so quite why I'm at all worried that there's a lack of snow now I don't know, but all the same I'd feel a lot happier if the ground were a few shades paler.
Where's the flippin' snow Puzzled Puzzled Puzzled
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yard sale junkie, don't worry (he says confidently) you have loads of time. Les Gets (France) opened 3rd Dec last year with one, man-made run.

The US resorts (esp east coast I think) make huge marketing capital out of being able to open for Thanksgiving.
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David Murdoch, I'm sure you're right, 3 months is some way off yet and I should be more patient.
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well I'm a bit concerned too, mainly because I want to snowboard on the holiday weekend here (Nov 11). Last year this was possible.

However the one consolation is that things can change fast. Check this out and see what I mean : Go to this link and look at how fast things changed in Cervinia in October and November last year. You can use the calendar on the left of each page to see the conditions for that date.

One big storm and we are sorted. BTW It's got a few degrees colder here in the last 2 days. Hopefully this trend continues !!
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Nothing to worry about then Puzzled
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It actually looks a little better this year!
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yea, but the following week was pretty snowy


26 October

27 October

29 October

2 November



And beautiful powder by 12 November
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Thats quite a conforting selection of pics Diarmuid,

/sigh of relief
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Renry, It was last year tho' Sad
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Thats quite a conforting selection of pics Diarmuid,

/sigh of relief



plus like this piccy from the above link





Beautifull
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Adam,

I was in Lake Louise on 29th Nov last year. There was complete snow cover across the resort although the lower areas didn't have alot of depth. However they only had about half the area open. At the beginning of the week it was just the front face, by the end they had opened the back bowls, but the Larch wasn't open while I was there.

Sunshine on the other hand. Wow. All open, powder everywhere, just amazing Very Happy
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Ahh the time of year has arrived - we should be worried about Bird Flu but we all have PST (Pre Skiing Tension). Got back from the canaries last night and within two hours was looking at skiing websites and brochures. Dr Kramer, - advice please.
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Adam,

It is snowing in sunshine right now and the cannons are on at Lake Louise. 15.30 BST
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To answer the original question from Buns, the situation currently reigning at Loveland and A-Basin (one run of manmade snow, lots of people), is known locally in Colorado as the "White Ribbon of Death". Strangely, that phrase doesn't crop up in resort marketing literature...
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Diarmuid, enjoyed that
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I noticed the cannons on at LL...... have to say I thought it would have been too warm for that..... both the making and the lying!

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at last things are looking up
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Diarmuid, I hate to say this but we've repeatedly proved that snowforecast are not exactly the most accurate when it comes to snow fall
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D G Orf oh I know. I've been looking at it for 2 years now. However I usuallly find the 3 day to be relatively accurate as to the chance of snow. I don't take much notice of the number of cms.

However , the precipitation map on weatheronline is usually a good indication of any snow on the way.
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Well someone was right as there is a covering at Plan Maison this morning. Where else has it snowed?
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Resorts with summer ski-ing will always open on the appointed day. It's harder for the lower resorts though. If it's warm (as it has been lately) and the cannons can't be used, then clearly the lower runs can't be used. We've had one Xmas where there was snow on the nursery slope, Vallee Blanche and Combe Valentin (cannons) and nothing else till you got the the glacier. I mean NOTHING - not a flake. first snow was 28/12.

Having said that, all resorts will make every effort to open when they say they will, after all, people have booked holidays.

BTW this year I'm full for week beginning 3rd Dec! Shocked First time that's happened. Shock
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