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Once again, Hothouse Productions have been commissioned by Channel 4 to run their ski coverage this winter.
Starting Sunday 20 November, every World Cup race up to the 2006 Winter Olympics will be covered. In addition to alpine skiing, the snowboard, nordic and freestyle World Cup circuits will be included.
A total of 39 programmes equalling 62 hours of coverage will be broadcast on Sunday mornings, Wednesday evenings and Friday evenings.
Presentation is by Nick Fellows, with special guests including Konrad Bartelski, Ken Read and Martin Bell.
The full details are on: http://www.hothouse-productions.com/worldcupskiing
It's assumed that the BBC have rights to the Turin Winter Olympics in early February - details to follow.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Great stuff! For when a Eurosport fix just isn't enough! Plus the ES coverage sometimes seems slightly unpredictable (you set video / sky+ and get motocross, or miss the start or end etc) Presumably this is due to them having to abide by whatever foreign video feed they have to take though. Anyone know more about these things ?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
Once again, Hothouse Productions have been commissioned by Channel 4 to run their ski coverage this winter.
Starting Sunday 20 November, every World Cup race up to the 2006 Winter Olympics will be covered. In addition to alpine skiing, the snowboard, nordic and freestyle World Cup circuits will be included.
A total of 39 programmes equalling 62 hours of coverage will be broadcast on Sunday mornings, Wednesday evenings and Friday evenings.
Presentation is by Nick Fellows, with special guests including Konrad Bartelski, Ken Read and Martin Bell.
The full details are on: http://www.hothouse-productions.com/worldcupskiing
It's assumed that the BBC have rights to the Turin Winter Olympics in early February - details to follow. |
I presented a section on Ski Suday once, I looked a right C U Next Tuesday. It did go out on Mothers day though, "Hello Mum" 
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Channel 4 "coverage" is just a spoiler. Designed to take programming from another channel and dump it at the extreme ends of the schedule when only hardcore fans/students or shift workers will bother to watch. Those running the sport are just grabbing the cash and running with no interest in the long term promotion of the sport. I haven't seen any snow sport since the BBC lost the contract and I'm a fan! I'd like to see the viewing figures, they must be apalling compared to the old Ski Sunday.
When was the last time you heard a conversation at work about downhill racing or any other winter sport? used to happen all the time in the good old days
And yes I know I could set a video but my point is only existing fans are going to do that, no new blood will be switching on.
I'll get off me soap box now 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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rich, I thought videos and DVD recorders were invented for just that. However your point about new views is valid. Unfortunately most of the "new viewers" are only interested in watching the crashes, and don't take up ski-ing - the crashes give them a very false impression of the sport. Most people (I think) now have Eurosport which does televise most of the races live.
I find it astonishing that anyone could defend the BBC's diabolical coverage of the sport over many years - daft comments like "he's carving well, staying off his edges" and so on. David Vine refusing to mention Nigel Smith because Nigel punched him out once - OK not a sensible thing to do, but if you've never done a downhill don't even think you know what it feels like - let alone when someone suggests you weren't really trying! The BBC refused to allow racers to be interviewed while wearing sponsorship logos, thus causing huge problems with sponsorship for the British Team. Britain should clearly focus on the technical events, where we have home training possibilities - no - all the money goes to downhill because people only want to see crashes. Sorry - rant over.
No offence to Martin Bell BTW - big respect.
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easiski, I agree that Channel 4's coverage of WC skiing is much better than Ski Sunday, particularly when Ski Sunday stopped being a discrete programme and was subsumed into Sunday Grandstand. I'd like to see Ch 4 improve what they do (compare it with coverage of F1 for example), and it would be nice if they stuck to the same time of day for each broadcast. Last season I missed the start or end of too many programmes because they varied the start time from week to week.
I'm in the category of people who don't have Eurosport, which is a real disadvantage for a wintersports enthusiast.
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| easiski wrote: |
| Most people (I think) now have Eurosport which does televise most of the races live. |
I think not. Far more people only have "council telly" as we call it than have sky or even freeview, despite what Sky et al would have you believe.
C4 coverage is the best it gets for the likes of me 
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I thought council telly was Sky, there's more dishes on the row of council houses just up the road from here than there is houses 
Sky free in my house as well although I keep looking at a TUTV subsubscription for Eurosport to go with Freeview.
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| FenlandSkier wrote: |
| I keep looking at a TUTV subsubscription for Eurosport to go with Freeview. |
I looked at this, but Eurosport isn't broadcast during the mornings via TUTV so not much point for me if I can't see the live coverage of WC racing.
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I believe Sky are now (rather late in the day) proposing a sort of "choose your own " package. This may be interesting for many people. I'd love to get rid of all the games and sex stuff off my sky card.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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That's Sunday morning lie ins cancelled then! The choose your own package might be worth investigating for Sky...I refuse to pay their overinflated package prices for a few hours of viewing each week and we can't get Freeview down here til 2008 or thereabouts
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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nbt it was just on our local news yesterday that the "majority" of local people were unprepared for the forthcoming changes to television. It will ALL be digital by 2010 ? I think thats the date anyway.
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You know it makes sense.
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I love this prog which I watch from my bed before setting off for my Sunday morning jog, with thoughts of skiing spuring me on 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| That's Sunday morning lie ins cancelled then! |
You need Sky+ - can't recommend it highly enough, set it to series link and never miss a programme then watch it when it suits you. Greaaat.
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| masmith wrote: |
| You need Sky+ |
not at 40 odd quid a month I don;t. over 12 months that's the cosy of another ski holiday. hmm, wonder which I;d prefer?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'm as budget conscious as the best of them, but even I'd struggle to get a ski holiday for £480 (all in).
Besides, Sky+ doesn't cost a penny extra.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| masmith wrote: |
| Besides, Sky+ doesn't cost a penny extra. |
I thought it was £10 per month unless you subscribed to one of the premium sport or movie packages?
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| I thought it was £10 per month unless you subscribed to one of the premium sport or movie packages? |
So if you do already subscribe to one of those channels then it doens't cost a penny. At least that's the way I justified it!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| masmith wrote: |
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| I thought it was £10 per month unless you subscribed to one of the premium sport or movie packages? |
So if you do already subscribe to one of those channels then it doens't cost a penny. At least that's the way I justified it! |
To get Sky+ 'free' you have to spend at least £34 a month, and new subscribers have to pay a one-off fee of £49 for the box. I don't watch enough TV to justify that kind of expenditure, so I'll stick to Freeview.
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I refuse to give any of my cash to the evil Murdoch empire!
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| To get Sky+ 'free' you have to spend at least £34 a month, and new subscribers have to pay a one-off fee of £49 for the box. I don't watch enough TV to justify that kind of expenditure, so I'll stick to Freeview. |
but if you had that expenditure anyway .....
How much are 'free'view boxes these day btw?
(but I get your point) 
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masmith, plain Freeview boxes are down to about £30-£40.
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| masmith wrote: |
I'm as budget conscious as the best of them, but even I'd struggle to get a ski holiday for £480 (all in).
Besides, Sky+ doesn't cost a penny extra. |
Well, Mrs NBT and I did the EOSB for a tab under £800 for the pair of us - although Ise was kind enough to give us a lift to and from the airport, so it might have been close to £900 if we'd had to hire a car. Still under £480 each though.
and sky+ does cost extra since it means me getting sky in the first place!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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rob@rar.org.uk, As I heard it that's rather alarmingly soon - 2010 or something? I don't take either sky sports or films, but it still costs be a pretty penny - I'm definitley up for a choice.
nbt, if you got a dish and a free to air box (very cheap) you could get Eurosport on German TV (Astra). I think you can choose the language you hear. It's strange how the UK seems to believe that all sattellite TV is Sky - NOT TRUE, and Eurosport is on every satellite I believe.
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ew've actually got an old analogue receiver and dish from the previous tenants - the only small problem is that the box would have to be plugged in on the other side of the room from the telly, as that's where the cable comes out of the wall (
I'm also rather worried about this whole "switching off" thing- I have 3 tvs, 2 vcrs and a DVD recorder, each of which has a prefectly good bbuilt in tuner - so I have to then tune each one toi a single external tuner that I have to buy?
Someone's making a *lot* of money out of this...
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You know it makes sense.
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| nbt wrote: |
| I'm also rather worried about this whole "switching off" thing- I have 3 tvs, 2 vcrs and a DVD recorder, each of which has a prefectly good bbuilt in tuner - so I have to then tune each one toi a single external tuner that I have to buy? |
In theory you could distribute the output from a Freeview decoder to the AV inputs on your TVs, VCRs and DVD recorder, but the disadvatage of this is that you would only be able to watch/record the same channel on all of your stuff at any particular time. You wouldn't be able to watch one channel and record another channel, for instance. A better option would be to buy more than one Freeview decoder, ideally one for each bit of AV kit you have.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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roll on Nov 20th !!
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Chris Brookes wrote: |
| roll on Nov 20th !! |
Yup, that's my first day of skiing this season, so I couldn't agree more!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rob@rar.org.uk, thats cruel to inform me of that,im sulking now
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sorry Chris
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| rob@rar.org.uk wrote: |
| A better option would be to buy more than one Freeview decoder, ideally one for each bit of AV kit you have. |
Precisely my point - I have six bits of kit, so even if the cheap boxes are "only £40" that still 6 * 40 = £240!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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We have a dish on our wall from the previous owner but all I get is YORKSHIRE
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Paul Mason, perhaps it's a pudding dish then 
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Paul Mason, I was ignoring it, not missed! Look at the list of programmes after 22.00 - about 20% of the channels are various girlie (no boys you note) progs - I'm actually quite surprised they're allowed, but there you are, I don't watch them and I don't see why I should pay for them - or all that "reality" TV or .................... too much ranting is probably bad for the soul.
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easiski I'm in bed by 22.00 most nights 
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w00t! skiing on telly! *drools* wish i had sky... never mind, time to set the video recorder (and it had better work this time!)
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