 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm in Whistler at the moment and went into a shop today to get some foam injected liners. I have a pair of Technical Diablo's which are about seven years old and the liners have now packed out , meaning myfoot slides right to the front. I've been very reluctant to change anything as they were fitted at Profeet and have been great as have been the custom footbeds that they made.
Anyway I went in today and the guy advised that I may benefit from new shells. I've done about 20 weeks in these and I think they're still ok. The guy said that the angle of the boot is now much less given the advances in skis and I'd benefit from that.
What I want to know is whether this is just bootfitter chat, designed to get me to spend more or is there actually truth in what he says? Or should I just get new liners in my old boots.
I've got an appointment tomorrow so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Jack
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Don't know, seven years seems a little old, but really doing no more than giving you a bump so it stays on the front page longer.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The general boot trend is towards more upright lean angles which are less tiring and work well in conjunction with rockered skis so its not all BS. Boot lasts, materials and fit have moved on considerably too. I changed out of 26 ski week old Diablos to Salomon Impact Custom Shells a couple of seasons ago and the Salomons are a way better boot. Now there is the X Max range which is better still with a full Custom Shell at a 'normal' boot price. I don't see the need to pay Profeet's prices with what's now available as a standard fit elsewhere.
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Jumping Jack Flash, interesting wot Raceplate says. I wouldn't spend the increment to get something that works well with rockers.
Less tiring? Maybe, but equally, unless you found your Diablos tiring (difficult to gauge, eh?) I wouldn't be too fussed.
That said, I had new liners fitted to (coincidentally) Tecnicas some years ago, and wished I'd actually just bought a properly fitted new boot. The Tecnica shell was just all wrong for my feet. Which was a shame, as I liked the orange and black tigerrr look.
It may be a case of what appears to be blatant unnecessary upselling is not such. But it doesn't sound as if your liners are shot.
Second opinion?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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7 year old boot, 20 weeks .... if it were a zip fit liner that you could move to another shell then i would do it, with a foam which is ideally fixed to being used in the shell it is injected in, i would go new boot every time
what shop you been at, there are good and bad in whistler
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CEM - the shop is Surefeet in the village. Liners are $600! New boots $500 with orthotics but I definitely don't want those as mine are fine.
The wife's getting the full set but I'm just not sure about a new shell given the old "if it's not broke" maxim.
What do you think?
Cheers
Jack
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CEM- just one other point. All their shells are without liners I.e they all have a generic Surefeet liner inserted, meaning that they could go in my Tecnica's. that said, will the shell,s be ok for another five years. If not I'd have to replace both anyway.
I am a bit (lot) of a gear junkie (pick up new Prior DB3's today) but I do know that comfort is paramount so want to make sure that I do the right thing by my feet not the right thing for my habit!
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try Fanatyco, Canski or Mcgoos before you pull the trigger
i would go new shell as well as liner, unlikely they will let you away without buying their insert, worth having a chat with some of the guys above first
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Brian Campbell at TopShelf (opposite corner of the block to FanatykCo) does a similar thing to Sorefoot (shell, foam liner, footbed) so he is worth asking.
He will probably tell you:
- A good fitting foam liner will last 400-500+ days and will quite possibly outlive your shell. So it might make sense to get a new one at the same time.
- Using a foam liner to compensate for a poor fitting shell is not a good idea, like pouring concrete into a bucket.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Kenny,
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- A good fitting foam liner will last 400-500+ days and will quite possibly outlive your shell. So it might make sense to get a new one at the same time.
- Using a foam liner to compensate for a poor fitting shell is not a good idea, like pouring concrete into a bucket.
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This is probably the best thing written about ski boots on this site ever.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Brian in Topshelf is doing mine (as recommended by Kenny |
Since when do you listen to me? You wouldn't be on those whiteplanks if you did 
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Thanks a lot for the advice. The boots are actually $700! But I certainly need new liners and in light of the above am leaning towards buying both. My wife has been out in hers today and says that they're perfect. That said, she's not 15 st with duck feet!
Looks like another big spend coming up!!!
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