 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Caption this?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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He lost his GoPro! He had it at the start but it wasnt there at the finish
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Zero-G, a new name for the list.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Storm clouds
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Zero-G, WTHF's that noise? . . . right, hit this and . . . rotate . . . Oh Fook . . . stick it, stick it SSSSTICK IT . . . . . . . . . 
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| jbob wrote: |
| Zero-G, a new name for the list. |
I'd say that list is now moot.
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Zero-G, Do you think when he went for the back flip he realised how close he was to the avalanche? It seemed to cost him precious moments.
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That's just showing off 
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Megamum, I doubt he knew about the avy until he was upside in mid air. Either that or he's got a set of balls on him and every other man should just hand in his man card now.
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Stunning, he couldn't have had a clue till he was in the air or landing, and then 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Someone hold my beer
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Thornyhill, The last ime I tried a back flip I was left coughing my remaining lung up whilst my broken leashed ski hare assed down the hill to Arc 1800. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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I reckon at that precise moment he was wondering if Chamexpress had actually taken his credit card number or not.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Slightly makes me curious as to the risk assessment/course control for that sort of thing.
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under a new name, Risk assessment = "I can hit that"
Good Grief man! They're skiing a cliff face . . . we don't even have an assessment criteria for the size of their balls 
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Very good. I didn't get it at first.
Dear Santa, I would like an Avalung for christmas
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Masque, How often have you heard of DH races being cancelled due conditions?
So snow pack assessment could be considered more of an art than a science but surely "Well, we can probably get a few of them down but sooner or later one of them is going to bring the whole pitch down" is not a place the organiser (or underwriter) wants to be in...
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under a new name, Of course there is risk assessment but this is extreme skiing on pitch angles that are impossible to survey the entire face. ANY hill can slide whatever the sign at the top of the lift says. FFS I've had to dig out of a 10ft slip on the side of a green
Yes "snow pack assessment" is nothing more than an a calculated risk based on limited data from a very small practical sample, snowfall records and experience. The only thing accurate about it is 'today there is a bit less chance of you getting hurt'
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| jbob wrote: |
| Zero-G, a new name for the list. |
Sverre Lillequist isn't exactly a new name!!
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| Masque wrote: |
under a new name, Of course there is risk assessment but this is extreme skiing on pitch angles that are impossible to survey the entire face. ANY hill can slide whatever the sign at the top of the lift says. FFS I've had to dig out of a 10ft slip on the side of a green
Yes "snow pack assessment" is nothing more than an a calculated risk based on limited data from a very small practical sample, snowfall records and experience. The only thing accurate about it is 'today there is a bit less chance of you getting hurt' |
It's an organised competition though, I would expect them to bomb it pretty heavily beforehand (they probably did) with so much fresh snow on it, before allowing the comp to go ahead - they are often post-poned when conditions aren't ideal - and they sure as poo-poo should be surveying the whole face used in situations like this! Rare to see avalanches, especially of that size, in competitions - thankfully! It's the one risk they should be doing their utmost to remove from the equation, the skiing is gnarly enough with the worry of slides on your mind too...
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| jbob wrote: |
| Zero-G, a new name for the list. |
Sverre Lillequist isn't exactly a new name!! |
I believe he means a new name for this list rather than a new skier on the block 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Zero-G, ah, makes sense lol!
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Interestingly, if you watch the day 3 video, they actually classed that as slough rather than an avy. Still bloody impressive!
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You know it makes sense.
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Will he have been carrying airbag, avalung etc. in that backback he was wearing or do they ditch that sort of gear for lightness when competing?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Piccadilly,
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Poster: A snowHead
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clarky999, have you not twigged yet? . . . The mountain ALWAYS rules. Every day we go out there is risk from a myriad of circumstance, to think that any hill is safe because someone chucked an explosive onto a slope is puerile. EVERY day on the hill is a joy not just because if the fun in sliding but also because we know in our hearts that there is an element of risk involved . . . and we are usually the worst at assessing that risk.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Megamum, bit of observation - 1:45 into the clip will answer your question
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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clarky999, that was my thinking.
Zero-G, not slough I'd want running around my waist while skiing above a cliff though.
Masque, I think you are missing the point: being that while accidents happen, we get things wrong, etc. but...
- that appeared from the limited information contained in that video to be quite a lot of snow following him down
- given all the risk of cultural collateral damage (e.g. costs, lawsuits, jail time, etc.)
I'm just a little surprised.
That is all.
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Masque, yes, of course I get that, but in an organised competition I'd expect the slope to be much more secured and 'checked' than in day to day backcountry skiing. Of course there can be no guarantees, but I'm surprised that (the weight of) one single skier was able to trigger such a big slide on a comp face. It's a bloody big event, the location has been chosen for the riders, the organisers have a responsibility to make it as safe as possible, so the riders can take as big a risk as they want to in terms of line choice/speed etc, focussing purely on that.
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Pretty sure he was just trying to see how big the avalanche was.
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under a new name, I played in a Burton Open . . . You relinquish all responsibility to yourself in these events. Your sponsor etc. is your insurer and that is limited in your contract with them. The organisers do not have to do a thing to make the hill safer. They do, but that is not a requirement. All risk assessment is down to you to accept your own limits.
What "cultural collateral damage"? Have you ever competed in anything? Not being nasty but seriously, organisers limit their exposure to just spectators and infrastructure at best.
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Megamum, would have thought with nigh on 25k of posts you'd know these things 
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| Masque wrote: |
| Have you ever competed in anything? Not being nasty but seriously, organisers limit their exposure to just spectators and infrastructure at best. |
I have, and while organizers may try to limit any liability to competitors they can't override the law, particularly around negligence. Take a look at the Lanzinger and Ulle Maier case for example - while the Maier one was dismissed it did make court and had the initial assessment that she hit a timing post been proven then the organisers would've been found criminally negligent.
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Weathercam, every single one of them posted whilst on-piste!! 
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