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Heel Lift - HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

 Poster: A snowHead
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I've been riding for 10 years now (Rome Solution board / Burton P1 bindings).

For the last few years I've been riding with Salomon Dialogue boots - overall, I've been very pleased with them but have consistently suffered from heel lift. I've so far managed it by attaching a couple of foam pads on the liner (either side) to effectively make the fit more snug / minimise lift.

I've just bought a pair of Northwave Legend SL boots, they're a bit stiffer which is fine as I feel I have become a bit complacent recently and would like a more responsive ride (plus push myself a bit more).

I'm a bit worried though that the heel lift issue won't go away (only a problem with the right boot due to, I imagine, a differently shaped foot).

Question – other than foam pads does anyone have any other suggestions to manage heel lift (the boots fit snugly in every other respect).

Thank you very much!
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franga, see a boot fitter who'll help you better than a forum can with liner or boot modification. Though it may be partly the way you try to ride by using stiff ankles and inclination to steer your board. Bootfitter will also have the right materials to make a long term fix.
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franga, Have you tried decreasing the angle of your highbacks so that they fit completely against the back of your boots?
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Masque, I have. I've been to both Snow And Rock plus TSA (Ellis Brigham) but not a professional fitter as such. I've tried on a number of pairs, the Northwave boots felt right. I'm off to Wengen tomorrow (only boarding for 1 day) so will road test. I'll see how they feel and if I need to make any adjustments I will definitely see a boot fitter before my next big trip in March. Thanks!

cad99uk, never thought of that. I'll try it tonight when I get home. Thanks!
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franga, good tip with the highbacks. While you're out playing try to relax flat footed and soft kneed into your boots and use the tongue of the boot to put pressure through your toe edge. Even the best of boots will feel loose in the heel if you are trying to pivot on your toes with locked ankles. Just sag down into your boots just don't stick yer arѕe out and drop your head into the 'having a dump' position.
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Masque, Very Happy
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use the tongue of the boot to put pressure through your toe edge. Even the best of boots will feel loose in the heel if you are trying to pivot on your toes with locked ankles.


^ This is just so correct ...
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I found that getting the right sock can get rid of heel lift, I have been using these for the last 6 years and cant see past them, make sure you wash them first before use, the then get really grippy.
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JimboS,
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I have been using these for the last 6 years

Aren't they getting a bit smelly? Laughing
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Guys, thanks for all your feedback. Have adjusted highbacks tonight (thanks for the tip cad99uk).

Will definitely be mindful of my stance too - too many years of riding without a lesson = bad habits ...
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franga wrote:
Guys, thanks for all your feedback. Have adjusted highbacks tonight (thanks for the tip cad99uk).

Will definitely be mindful of my stance too - too many years of riding without a lesson = bad habits ...

Then a day in class wouldn't go amiss either. Take a couple of days to warm and loosen up then have a lesson. While you're out those first days keep an eye out for classes and watch the instructors, see one you like the way he or she is sliding, wait for a convenient moment and go get the name, go to the office and book a lesson, you won't regret it as the best way to spend a night's worth of beer tokens.
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Masque, +1 for lessons, there's always more to learn.
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If riders can,t bend at the ankles the heel will lift which is a personal lack of flexion contributing factor, which will change over time.


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i've always subscribed to the view that a wee bit of heel lift is to be expected, and shouldn't affect your riding. Short of putting bolts through the boot and your ankle, I don't see mechanically how you can expect to completely eliminate heel lift.
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I am using Salomon F24s which have a lovely lacing system that pulls your foot down and back into the hell of the boot.

You couldn't lift your heels if you wanted to.
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Buy or make some foam J bars to keep heel in place ....simple and very cheap to do
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