 Poster: A snowHead
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For us ' LOCAL PEOPLE', first snow of the winter. Summer is dead, except for those of us whom have very organised 'other-halfs' who are booking our holidays in the sun.
Glitch in the Matrix. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think you mean 'rain tonight'. It is still pretty warm.  . Maybe on Wednesday night?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Snowline supposedly around 3000m, so I suppose it's snowing somewhere. Hopefully up on the glaciers, just about. Certainly not in Chamonix at 1000m though! Chucking it down at the moment.
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PG, Is the Tignes Glacier closed now until November?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Grande Motte has been open since October 1st... will be there on and off most of next week doing a piece on the GB Children's Team that's training there from Saturday, before heading for 2 Alpes and the Mondial.
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PG, Thanks, Tignes.net gives the impression that the Glacier is closed from October 1st!
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Glacier opennin is on 1st october
The Grande motte Glacier is open till 1st october, the Espace Killy area will open on 26 november |
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http://meteo.chamonix.com/MetPreE.php3
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2700m but in my experience they are usually a few hundred meters low on the prediction - it does however say getting colder!
What was all that on the Radio this morning about the coldest winter in the UK this year since the 60's? have we reached a Solar Minimum? is the Gulf Stream moving?
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A bus (almost) full of our Welsh children are heading for Tignes this Friday for a training camp. How much of the day will they be able to ski before the slush! ? Any predictions for the weather?
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Huge change in weather here last few days. Won't be long now.
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The mountain folk will advise you to keep a stash in the bank. France had disastrously late winters in the late 80s/1990.
The ski season doesn't always start according to the timetable. In those years it was sometimes droughtville until February.
People like to be well prepared with their boots, though!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| NorthWestFace wrote: |
What was all that on the Radio this morning about the coldest winter in the UK this year since the 60's? have we reached a Solar Minimum? is the Gulf Stream moving? |
North Atlantic Oscillation is the key word. I'm no expert I'm afraid, but from what I can gather sea temperatures seem to have a big influence on the location of large areas of high pressure close to Britain. If the highs are in the right position they can block the milder south westerly winds. The majority of our weather will then be northerly and easterly winds, which are both cold directions. It seems the long term models are pointing towards just that kind of winter as most forecasters are pointing to an average or below average winter (even an average winter will be significantly colder than recent years). Hopefully there will be an expert along in a second to tell us what's really happening. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Sounds good anyway!
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Lager, said
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Hopefully there will be an expert along in a second to tell us what's really happening.
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All together now very loud. SKANKY!
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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compres, thats your cue!
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Who he?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Chris Bish wrote: |
All together now very loud. SKANKY!
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He's busy getting very technical on the UK Weatherworld Forums.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rob@rar.org.uk, Are you serious? Tell him we miss him!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Chris Bish, I suppose we could bombard him with PMs? Perhaps he could bring some people from UK Weatherworld with him so we have lots of metorological experts to help feed our snow news addiction?
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snow news addiction
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Some snowflakes make it all the way to the Alps without me watching them all the way. OK, not many, but some. That's not addiction, but it might be very heavy dependence!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Chris Bish wrote: |
| rob@rar.org.uk, Are you serious? Tell him we miss him! |
I did, sort of.
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| Chris Bish wrote: |
| That's not addiction, |
Yes it is. The sooner you admit it, the sooner you can deal with it.
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Nice one. But just look at that 2 Alpes webcam today. How can you work??
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| NorthWestFace wrote: |
http://meteo.chamonix.com/MetPreE.php3
2700m but in my experience they are usually a few hundred meters low on the prediction - it does however say getting colder!
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Hmmm not sure about that. It didn't go below 14.5C yesterday and is now at 17.5 (at 300 meters altitude) at l'alpe d'Huez they are recording 8.5C at 2100 meters. Just looking out of the window with the binoculars there was no fresh snow below 3000 meters... just rain. Still I must be around 80km/h from Mont Blanc (can see it out of the window) and as we know from David at La Rosiere it forms its own microclimate so there can be snow down to the valley at la Rosiere and nowhere else.
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brian
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In Skanky's absence I shall attempt a limited explanation:
First - the NAO. This refers to the average pressure gradient between tropical high pressure (the Azores High) and polar low pressure. If the gradient is large then we say the NAO is in a positive phase, if it's smaller then it's a negative phase.
Positive phase tends to mean lots of low pressure areas crossing the UK, West to East.
Negative phase tends to mean areas of high pressure develop blocking the normal path of these lows. If the block is out to the West of the UK, then air will tend to be pulled across the UK from the North or East, ie. from the North pole or the Baltic, both very chilly However, if the block slips to the East then unfeasibly mild air is pulled over us from the tropics
Historically, -ve NAO winters do tend to be good for skiing in Scotland.
For the alps, the tendency is drier and colder in the North, wetter in the South.
The met office claim that using historical data, their model of the NAO gets the sign right 66% of the time. This year they predict -ve.
Second - the Met office's dynamic model for long range forecasting. I believe this is reckoned by meteorological types to be the best there is. The Met office obviously aren't going to tell us how it works and make their money by selling its output. However, as with all long range forecasts, its accuracy is variable at best. This is currently forecasting colder, drier weather for the UK winter, ie. in line with the NAO forecast.
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