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Ski boot and a broken ankle

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I broke my ankle a few years ago and struggle with keeping the upward flexion in that leg to a level where I can ski comfortably. I've got some Salomon Impact 10 CSs with custom liners and I remember reading you can remove two bolts from the back of the boot to take them down to 100 flex. Would this help compensate for the fact I can use one ankle a lot more than the other or am I barking up the wrong tree?

If I do this

1) Am I likely to notice much difference ?
2) Can they be refitted if it's just all too mushy?

At times I feel like the metalwork is causing the pain but the GP doesn't seem to think so. The ankle will flex further it's just too painful. I'm going to go and see a Physio though for a second opinion.

Cheers
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Go see a good bootfitter and get their advice.
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Echoing davkt, , see a fitter for experience led advice.
The metal work issue could be more due to the temperature? My OH has plates and screws that are no problem except in very cold temps, he has to go warm up far more frequently than the rest of us.
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Crell, if you have limited flexion due to the metalwork then you need a stiffer more upright boot rather than a softer one with more forward lean, essentially you want to get reaction from the ski with minimal flexing of the ankle, if the boot is soft it needs more flexion at the ankle before the power is transferred to the ski and anything happens
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Crell

I have a very similar problem; bone growth from severe ankle fracture restricting movement. See my post at the bottom of page 4 of the boot fitter sticky
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Crell, seeing a bootfitter is part of the option . . .


The rest is down to you doing some proper rehab . . . and don't give me any poop about "it hurts" I can trade injuries with 10 of you combined!

We all favor our injuries and compensate for them so just finding some way to make you feel comfortable is just . . . well . . . pants.

Getting our bodies to accept alien augmentation is not going to be easy so rule 5 (?) applies . . . push yer 'sen . . . It does get easier . . . with time and endurance.
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In my experience the perception of problems is far elevated, than that of getting a boot fitted. Ski boots work really well for broken joints and bones in this area, the trick is to getting the "pair" to work the same. Little Angel
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Thanks all. I'll start with Masque as that made me laugh. I'm what you would generally call pain-tolerant. For example, when I broke my ankle and leg (in 4 places) with a full rearward dislocation and torn ligaments I got back on my mountain bike, rode for a mile or so back to the car. Sat in it for a while because I thought the swelling would go down, but when it didn't I drove my (auto) car for 25 miles home. Had a brew and then got driven to A&E. I then spent a week in hospital before they could operate on it as it had suffered "a lot" of trauma. Thanks for the life coaching; I'm just surprised you didn't explicitly tell me to "man up" as well. If anything it's getting worse, not better with rehab; so forgive me for asking for some advice other than grin & bear it.

CEM and the rest, thanks. I did get the boots fitted after the accident (CEM you recommended the fitter as you were booked up and he did a great job Smile ). I exercise my ankle regularly as I'm conscious of the need to keep it moving but It has a tndency to swell up (hence I think there's a problem with the plates). Doesn't seem to be temperature related at all to be honest.

CH20, that's pretty much my problem!
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Crell, MTFU is actually the issue . . . but not at the expense of more damage to the area. Yes it is going to be sensitive for a long time (I have trauma related issues that are 20 years past the point of me being pissed off with them) but you do have to persevere and sometimes you have to look at swelling and or inflammation / pain and work out if it's specific to the original injury or if its caused by by your own favoring of that injury. I get a swollen right foot. It occurs because the surgery required to stitch my Achilles back together damaged other parts of my leg . . . and it hurts and throbs horribly . . . I've researched the issue and to all intents and purposes, ignore it and just push through the discomfort and now, 6 years later it is beginning to appear 'normal'. You have to learn about you injury and then PUSH the limits of both the repair and the rehab . . . or just accept that you are a lesser person. THe human body is capable of AMAZING recuperation . . . the human mind is ASTONISHINGLY lazy.
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Crell, ignore Masque - he gets cranky when he fails to score.

Try TECNICA Bushwacker 110 Air Shell Ski Boots or one of the other Air Shell range of Technica boots. I have skiied an older Nordica version of these for years and have just acquired a new set of Technica Airs (even though I didn't need them) on the strength of that experience. Not only does the air keep your foot warmer but they allow micro adjustment on the fly. They should also give additional cushioning. The nice thing about them is that they do not grab your foot in the traditional way so the may provide the relief you need. What I am really looking forward to is the backcountry work - padded but loose on the way up, supportive and tight on the way down.

I can easily imagine that the metalwork could be causing you the discomfort especially if it is fixed and the rest of your leg is moving around it. If that is so then I suspect that increasing movement (i.e. 'flex') will not help. What you need is an adjustable fit and some pre-ski Nurofen by the sounds of it.
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Crell, I broke Tib, Fib and dislocated ankle in a rugby match, followed by months of rehab. When I started skiing again I had problems very similar to what you described. Tried the boot fitting root and then when I was doing my BASI stuff I struggled to get the amount of flex you referred too. The recommendation was to do what CEM said: stiffer more upright boot rather than a softer one with more forward lean, essentially you want to get reaction from the ski with minimal flexing of the ankle, if the boot is soft it needs more flexion at the ankle before the power is transferred to the ski and anything happens. Absolutely spot on in my case and I've not looked back since. As to the pain thing, I do occasionally enjoy a day off in my Touring Boots!! Good Luck.
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