Poster: A snowHead
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Anyone skiid these and what do you think of them, reviews and recommendations of them seem to be good. Thinking of buying a pair
They also do a Pro version which is stiffer
Anyone
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If you look here they are v cheap....
http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/dynastaroutland80xt1112-p-48465.html
just got some for a mate i am going skiing with at easter.
he tried them as a hire ski at half term and loved them. Said they were really very easy to ski and gripped very well on piste, but floated well off it, but as i didn't go with him and see can't say much more
other than he always moans about the hire gear, even if they seem ok to me, but will not buy, until now, so him buying is a minor miracle....they must have been very good. The off piste will have been piste side stuff so not very deep.
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carroz,
Thanks, almost decided me. Which ones did you mate ski, coz there are three versions
Outland 80
Outland 80XT
Outland 80 Pro
I think ski set rent out the standard 80
It seems Dynastar rate the 80 for Good Advanced Intermediates ( which is me ish!!!!) and the othyer two for experts, which is not me!!!!
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Timbobaggins, He hired the base version, and i think that is what he purchased, i know there was a bit of "should i buy the next one up as its not much more" as he asked me about it.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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carroz,
Lovely, what sort of level skier is he
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He is a reasonable intermediate, likes groomed reds alot and bits of shallow fluff off the side of pistes, bumps are a bit of an issue..........as is making up his mind!
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Timbobaggins, they are very good, all round skis. A friend who is a BASI Trainer skis the Outland Pros and reckons the base model would be fine for most people. (I was discussing as I want to get some "guest" skis to save people who visit us hiring.)
Be careful with the Telemark Pyrennes offer as (I'm 95% sure that) the XT model is the "flat" (i.e. doesn't come with a binding) version of the base model.
try to get to a Decathlon as they reduced them recently to £149. A friend actually saw the last pair in Canada Water Decathlon for £89, but by the time I got there they had gone.
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Timbobaggins wrote: |
Anyone skiid these and what do you think of them, reviews and recommendations of them seem to be good. Thinking of buying a pair
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Early April this year i was in VT. There was lots of fresh snow and so on the the Wednesday morning I went back to the hire shop and asked for a pair of fatter skis. They gave me a pair of Outlands. I just wish I knew which model they were. They were fantastic. Am now constantly trawling the net to try and find some that I can afford. As they were hire skis ,were they likely to have been the base model? I wish that I had written down their details.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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New skis arrived today, brand new Dynastar Outlands. Bargain. Thanks so much Legue,a fellow Snowhead. Top chap. Shame I have to wait so long to use them
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We have just had some Outland 80XT skis back in as Dynastar found some stock, I love this ski, got a pair myself, outstanding in slush through to crud. Don't have many pairs but price is a steel for a ski that is unchanged next year, AND the Snowheads discount code is currently working on sale items to end of month so you can save a bit more )
Sorry for the shameless plug, but us UK ski shops need customers right now, and have some great deals so you don't need to buy from abroad
http://www.edgeandwax.co.uk/151397/products/dynastar_outland_80_xt_2012_skis_and_bindings.aspx
My summary on the 3 models, based on the ski test, and then taking some out again on a separate test as I liked them so much:
80 Standard - We decided not to stock. Dont get me wrong, nice ski, but see below for why. It is a GOOD ski though!
80 XT - It has the added Basalt in the wood construction. Really dampens the ski down but keeps it very much alive, a noticeable difference over the standard model for not much more money. And is Fall Line All Mountain Ski Of The Year. Suit progressing intermediates right through to expert we feel
80 Pro - Also has the Basalt, slightly stiffer construction, with a couple of extra layers in the construction, bit more aggressive, and we feel a little bit more geared to all piste conditions as a result, and more advanced. Makes it just a little less versatile but not by much.
So the 80 Pro for the point and shoot speed demons, mainly on the piste, the 80 XT for those wanting a do-it-all model that can still carve beautifully. Stable, predictable, fast. (My notes from the ski test!) I have some on-ski video from Val D'Isere last season (before the camera fell off the ski!) and I was absolutely flying. The 80 Standard is good, but smart buyers seemed to go for the XT to get the extra pop and damping from the ski, for not much more money.
Dynastar really do make some cracking skis, and keep an eye out for the CHAM models next season, simply stunning skis, and our favourites on test for freeride skiing.
ScottyDog
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You know it makes sense.
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scottydog,
How do they compare to the Sultan 85 ?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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musher wrote: |
scottydog,
How do they compare to the Sultan 85 ? |
In terms of build quality and edge to edge control, identical.
In terms of application, chalk n cheese The Outland for all of us here who tested, is an 80% Piste ski, capable in short bursts in the powder in all conditions, so ideal for most UK skiers and those skiing in mixed groups, mainly on the piste. It does deal with pretty much ALL piste conditions from fluffy stuff to grass and rocks though. I know, I tried, it was the day of the Royal Wedding in Vlad D'Isere and I was willing to ski down anything to avoid having to sit through that on the TV! Wasn't much snow in Val D May last year!
The Sultan 85 is wider, has a different response and feel due to the construction, flex and binding mounting (Screw in rather than integrated rail) and possible overall as a result is lighter, the basalt on the Outland does add a little weight. Therefore we feel making the Sultan more of a 60/40 all mountain ski. It is replaced next season by the CHAM skis, which are amazing, the CHAM 94 in particular was a standout ski as was the CHAM 104.
There IS an Outland 87 next season, looks stunning in the green/black/white, but at that point, we think at 85mm+ you would be better off going down the CHAM 85/94 route as at that width the skier will be looking for more float and verstaility in the soft stuff, rather than raw carving power.
Hope that helps.
Scottydog
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Poster: A snowHead
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Would the Outland 80 or 80 XT be appropriate for an advanced begginer, early intermediate? Or maybe the 75 XT? I found them online for cracking prices! Is there much difference between the 75 XT and the 80 and 80XT? I will ski mostly on groomers, but would like to flow better through afternoon crud and slide between the bumbs on the steeper parts.
Also, my shortlist includes Fischer Motive 76, Rossi Experience 78 x, Rossi Avenger (Alias) 74 Carbon (if i can find it for a better price than Experience 78 x), and the K2 Shockwave (which seems a bit too advanced/heavy).
Which would you choose for a level 5, 5 1/2 skier? 6'1 190 lbs.
Cheers,
Tudor
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