 Poster: A snowHead
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All I want is an outer shell gore tex jacket without a full length zip. Didn't seem like too big an ask. A few years back when I was last looking for ski jackets I seem to recall plenty around.
So why do they no longer seem to exist? Hell, doesn't even need to be a ski specific design but no one seems to be doing them any more. Thought I'd found one on the Arctyrx website but, no, click to choose and it's out of stock.
I'm intrigued - why should this be? Surely I can't be the only person in the world after this sort of garment. Weird....
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I remember years ago that a company ( I forget which) were a bit peeved that people wanted a zip in their fleeces. I think the reason is that if you come to a halt or are in a pub, you can cool off quickly without having to disrobe and have to find a place to put said garment simply by unzipping.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sportspursuit had loads in their Mammut sale the other week. Try searching for half-zip or smock. Quite a few mountaineering and climbing shells are half-zipped.
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I've got an old SOS one - but not goretex, vitually new as it was only worn twice,I just used a full jacket. Why dont you want a full zip jacket ? Cant see any real benefit of just having half a zip.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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gvj, 
There's a Supreme store in Soho.
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Alans deep bath, err thanks; maybe a climbing type shell is what I'm looking for.Bones, love SOS stuff - that's more like what I was harking back to.
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Modern zips don't let water through, so there's no need to put up with the faff off a 'pull-over-your-head' type jacket any more.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I like the look of the firemore stuff - anybody got any experience of them?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thanks for all the leads guys. Nice to know they still exist. Now to try and decide which one!
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I'm not sure why it's like that. Fashion, maybe. What would be difficult with a pullover-type jacket...? Maybe:
(a) If you have a jacket with a snow-skirt which fastens to the pants, that would be hard to do with a pullover and would generally be a bad idea. So I don't see how you could get a decent "snow seal" for back country stuff with a pullover-style jacket. So I'd guess you probably can get "pullover" style stuff, just not intended for serious (back country not park) use.
(b) Current coat fashion seems to still be for longer jackets covering the back bottom. That's not really going to work with a pullover.
(c) Using a transceiver may be a challenge with a pullover. You'd definitely have to take it off to set up (although people with zip jackets do that too), but you'd not be able to search very easily without being able to open the jacket I think.
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You know it makes sense.
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You've just missed a good sport pursuit offer on Berghaus Velum and Asgard goretex smocks. If I didn't already have a perfectly good Rab Demand I'd have gone for one of those. In non-hardshell land, Cioch's gear is very nice, and is a pretty good deal considering that it is no more expensive than Paramo's own stuff (Aspira Smock, etc) and made to measure. Buffalo and Montane both make similar gear (fibre pile/pertex outer) in smock form.
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| (a) If you have a jacket with a snow-skirt which fastens to the pants, that would be hard to do with a pullover and would generally be a bad idea. So I don't see how you could get a decent "snow seal" for back country stuff with a pullover-style jacket. So I'd guess you probably can get "pullover" style stuff, just not intended for serious (back country not park) use. |
I've never used anything with a snowskirt. A decent hem seal over a pair of salopettes has always done me fine. Maybe I just haven't done enough arse first powerslides into deep powder.
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| (b) Current coat fashion seems to still be for longer jackets covering the back bottom. That's not really going to work with a pullover. |
Not quite sure why you think pullover design precludes length. I'm pretty certain I've seen designs of jellaba which are pullovers that reach down to the feet! Maybe you're thinking of close fit? That would want hem and waist drawcords, or perhaps stretchy fabric, too. Not so great, I guess.
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| (c) Using a transceiver may be a challenge with a pullover. You'd definitely have to take it off to set up (although people with zip jackets do that too), but you'd not be able to search very easily without being able to open the jacket I think. |
The zips in the pullover gear I've used have been more than deep enough to facilitate reaching in to deal with stuff on a transceiver harness.
Having said all that, I much prefer full jackets cos they're easier to vent and remove. Only my super lightweight stuff is in pullover form; my normal gear is not.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Iguana did a thinsulate version that was the best ski jacket I ever had. Then some low life toerag broke in and stole it. I tried for years to get a replacement to no avail. It was not the best looking jacket in the world (light blue with a massive blue lifelike iguana wrapped around from front to back - well, I liked it but the g/f didn't) but it worked superbly. Nothing since has even come close. Didn't need a snow lock because it had drawstings on the lower edge which you just hiked up to waist level and cinched tight, strong, long elasticated inner cuffs and huge pockets (double on the chest). Nice and baggy all round. Really came into it's own in powder.
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Poster: A snowHead
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That camo Supreme North Face above is listed at £699 on flea bay!! Are they freakin' kidding?? The camo pattern's not even that nice, it looks like a poor attempt at a twee Christmas card background.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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gvj, I've got a pristine SOS ski sweater, great quality, plus a Dale of Norway Sport Ski jumper with wind-bloc, both the warmest pieces of kit ever. I've had half-zip Napapijri Skidoo jacket, SOS cordura Smock, and a White Stuff smock, and just love the retro-style and easy on-off.
Last week on Ebay was a new Napapijri jacket for £175............... bargain 
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