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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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A lot of 'technical' mountain pants have side zips. They don't need to be specifically designed for skiing, but you'll likely need some insulating layer underneath.
Ones I looked at recently were the Helly Hansen Odin bib pants. These had full-length side zips, and the bib section was removable to make them into trousers. They also had a reasonable stretch to them.
RRP is expensive, but I have seen them on special offer in some places, so it might be worth digging.
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| feef wrote: |
A lot of 'technical' mountain pants have side zips. They don't need to be specifically designed for skiing, but you'll likely need some insulating layer underneath.
Ones I looked at recently were the Helly Hansen Odin bib pants. These had full-length side zips, and the bib section was removable to make them into trousers. They also had a reasonable stretch to them.
RRP is expensive, but I have seen them on special offer in some places, so it might be worth digging. |
Ahh perfect, that's just the kind of thing I was after and maybe it's my inner 8 year old but the chance to buy 'technical mountain pants' sounds pretty awesome 
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I sometimes use a pair of Paramo Aspira salopettes; the zip goes all the way to the hip. I use them for touring in poor weather, but they might need a little modification to fit over chunky alpine ski boots rather than a more delicate pair of touring boots. They're highly weather resistant (the fabric was designed with scottish winters in mind) and much more breathable than goretex and cos they last forever you can often find cheap pairs on ebay (I got mine for £100, second hand). They're warm but not toasty; you'd probably want thermals under them in really cold weather.
Full side zip shell trews and salopettes don't seem to be very cool anymore; many of the usual mountaineering gear companies don't seem to have any such models on the market right now.
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| Serriadh wrote: |
| Full side zip shell trews and salopettes don't seem to be very cool anymore; many of the usual mountaineering gear companies don't seem to have any such models on the market right now. |
Apart from North Face, Helly Hansen, Mountain Equipment....
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(on reflection, this probably wasn't necessary)
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Fri 14-09-12 13:57; edited 1 time in total
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Be honest now, have salopettes ever been trendy?
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| Serriadh wrote: |
Be honest now, have salopettes ever been trendy? |
Dunno.. but I've always preferred them
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You know it makes sense.
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They've certainly always been practical.
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If I could still get into my Phoenix SpinDrift salopettes, I'd be using them still.. They've lasted surprisingly well, and still waterproof enough for skiing in. I love the fluorescent orange knees 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Thanks for all the great ideas everyone. There is clearly a world of kit out there beyond Snow&Rock and a great range of prices to from £50 to... well a lot more than £50. But, as I'll tell the wife, you can't put a price on your health, or rather you can and its lime green and £399 + delivery.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Currently I have a pair of Killy Salopettes which I love and they flare at the bottom
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Erm, might not be your style but just got my Flylow delivery in and the Baker bibs are just, functionally, what your looking for! www.flylow.com
...and seriously cool looking 
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indieinferno, I obviously use these http://shop.snowshepherd.co.uk/Ortovox-La-Grave-Trousers
the side zips are full so you can unzip from the top as well, this means that if you are caught short on the mountain you can unzip without having to take off any other clothes like your jacket
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I ski in a pair of Vist ski pants, they are fully zipped, but I'm not close to being qualified to even sniff them let alone wear them. It doesn't bother me, they are warm, practical and fit!!
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indieinferno, ...what size are you? I've got some killy entrant salopettes with full side zips which I don't use anymore but I am small - 5 foot 8 - 30 inch waist 30 inch inside leg - they are in switzerland at the moment but they can come back at christmas if they are any good for you.
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indieinferno, why bother? If you are wearing thermals are you going to get those with side zips as well? If you wear the brace over the thermals that could be part of your problem of slippage. 
Get the brace properly fitted would be my advice and cheaper in the long run. Then learn to do it up properly. Every brace I have used have used the same system: top of the calf first, then top of the thigh followed by bottom of the calf and the final one at the bottom of the thigh should be tightened just enough to be comfortable. If you bought it off the shelf, then go find an orthopaedic technician and see if you are actually doing more harm than good by wearing it. A badly fitting brace can do more harm in the long term.
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| Samerberg Sue wrote: |
indieinferno, why bother? If you are wearing thermals are you going to get those with side zips as well? If you wear the brace over the thermals that could be part of your problem of slippage.
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I'd envisage the process is something like:
Put on socks
put on 3/4 base layer pants
put on brace
then how to get the salopettes on.. full length zip is practical anyway, even without a brace so why not.
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feef, Simply because a good knee brace is designed to be used against the skin. If it is fitted properly and done up correctly, it will sit tight all day. Mine certainly does, but it was prescribed by my orthopaedic surgeon, measured and fitted by experts, not some assistant at somewhere like Slush &Rubble hoping for a bonus commission.
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I don't see any mention where it's working loose. The OP would like to get access to it to loosen it.
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feef, I put mine on in the morning and take it off at night. It sits comfy all day, others I had had to be adjusted during the day as they did tend to slip or work loose.
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Find touring ski pants (specailly made for touring) they often have zippers all the way up. My Mammut has it as well but those are probably over budget. Also try the Decathlon store: they often have quite technical gear for decent prices.
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You know it makes sense.
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The dirt cheap D2B kecks that II recently linked to on the bargains thread have a full side zip and offer 20k/20k in a stretch fabric for £12. Hard to beat that I think.
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Agree with Samerberg Sue. Got an Ossur CTi off the shelf, but even then needed to get it fitted by a physio. lots of pad adjustments were needed. not sure a non-specialist would necessarily fit it properly, although I can also see the OP's point-if bashed etc they can slip slightly. swings and roundabouts.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Real solution is of course to get ACL reconstructed and bin the brace entirely. I get the feeling some orthopods get clients hooked on them and then they become a "crutch". Opinions seem to vary massively in the profession on necessity.
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