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Hotronics Footwarmers .... anyone use them?

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Hi,

Just wondering if anyone here has used them and whether they would recommend them or not?

I've been looking at getting them as I do tend to suffer from my feet freezing, which on several occasions has meant stopping off earlier that intended for my hot chocolate (or possibly something stronger Razz )

They are quite expensive, so just thought I would get your thoughts or maybe if there is another product you would recommend instead?

Thanks

Very Happy
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I use them. I've been particularly sensitive to cold feet since a touch of frostbite and the boot heaters do a good job of stopping my feet getting too cold. Battery charge lasts more or less a full day unless you have them on the highest settings.
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Ok, thanks for the reply. Battery life was one of my biggest concerns, so that's good news! Think I'll probably go for them, I'm there for the season, so will probably turn out to be quite a good investment.

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Ski_AL, oops, apologies for the confusion, just remembered it is the Therm-ic boot heaters that I use, not the Hotronic which is a different brand. However, I guess they are all much of a muchness in terms of technology and battery life. My one recommendation would be to make sure you buy a clip or strap which allows you to mount the battery on the side of the boot not on the rear cuff, as low hung chairlifts can crash in to the back of your boots and damage the battery packs.
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rob@rar, I'm probably going to get some of these for Mrs Doc - do the heated footbeds go in instead of the existing, moulded, footbeds, or ontop or below?
And has anyone used their gloves? Pricey, but might be worth it if they work well:

http://www.absolute-snow.co.uk/V/Therm-ic_POWER_GLOVES_IC_2600_Womens_SkiSnowboard_Glove_S-(44767)
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Tom Doc, not sure about after market footbeds, although I think some boot manufacturers do have the heating elements built in to some of their footbeds. The heaters I use have small heating elements which are stuck on the top of your exisiting footbeds and then covered by a layer of fabric. The cable to the battery is normally routed through a hole in the footbed and liner, and then to the battery. I guess the heating element can by stuck on top of any footbed, original or custom.
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Mrs.Double has the Thermics and loves them, she's suffered from cold feet in the past and these have cured it.

Advice though, don't let the shop fit them on top of your custom soles. They did this with the mrs boots and made them very uncomfortable, the heating element is quite hard and gave hor foot pain on both feet. They also cut a hole into the insole to run the cables through.

The shop and instructions reccomend that you turn them off whilst skiing and only use them on the lifts, not good if you get cold feet all the time.

We've taken them out and she now runs them under the custom insole permenantly switched on at a low setting so rather than heat cold feet they keep them slightly warmer all day. We had to fill the hole in the insole with silicone as that then was the next sore point.
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Have spent a bit of time looking today and the Therm-ic ones seem a bit easier to fit for a complete novice, since the heating element is already applied. Seem to be about the same as the hotronic ones in terms of price.

not sure whether to just apply them to my current insoles or buy some new ones.
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homers double,
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We've taken them out and she now runs them under the custom insole permenantly switched on at a low setting so rather than heat cold feet they keep them slightly warmer all day.



rob@rar,
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The heaters I use have small heating elements which are stuck on the top of your exisiting footbeds and then covered by a layer of fabric.


I guess I'll just have to get a pair and let Mrs Doc work it out for herself!

Thanks guys.

P.s Anyone used the gloves?
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It's a thin layer of fabric. I'd seriously try the under sole method first before butchering a pair of £50+ custom footbeds.
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homers double wrote:
It's a thin layer of fabric. I'd seriously try the under sole method first before butchering a pair of £50+ custom footbeds.


Yeah, makes sense to try this way 1st. Thanks.
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We were told by our local specialist shop that Thermic have quite suddenly gone bust, now its possibel its just the canadain arm, but that wasn't the implication. I would go hotronic.
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thermic has gone bust, not that it will be a problem, the retailers will deal with the warranties and someone will probably buy the company and get it up and running again...the reason they went was that one of the directors ran off with a few million €

both are much of a muchness, the thermic batteries are slightly smaller than hotronic and last longer based on the info we have, the element should be put on top of the insole with a small slit for the wire to go through and then the top is covered with the sticky backed cambrelle sheet

most places that you buy them from will fit them free of charge
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They should be, but have you not had any comments on the footbed being uncomfortable?
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I'd rate them very highly for anyone who suffers from the miseries of cold feet. CEM fitted mine into Zipfit liners. You need to cut a hole at some point, if you already have good fitting footbeds. I gaffer-taped small loops onto my battery packs so that, as well as the slightly dodgy clips, I can put the power-strap thing on the boots through them. Belt and braces - and sometimes they are only hanging by my contraption. The clips aren't terrific. But it's definitely a bad idea to have them right on the back - chairlift damage is all too likely.
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homers double wrote:
They should be, but have you not had any comments on the footbed being uncomfortable?


i guess that was in response to me saying that the element should go on top of the footbed?

if so then the answer is No, if they are fitted properly we have never had an issues, i have probably fitted a few hundred of these over the years, if they don't sit flat on the footbed then you have to make adjustments until they do.... for superfeet kork where there is a toe crest we simply flatten out an area the size and shape of the element, other types of footbed they either sit completely flat or can be cut into the top surface, ...... putting them under the footbed is a great way to minimize the heat getting to the foot
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I completely understand the last bit, thats why the mrs runs them all day on a low setting rather than blast them on 2 or 3 whilst sat ona lift.

I suppose it's each to their own, and I'm not saying that you dont know your stuff either.
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I've got the Hotronics and can't believe I didn't get them before last season. They are brilliant. My feet have suffered years of abuse in cold, tight fitting ski boots and these made such a difference last year. I've run them on full setting for a whole day and the batteries have been fine. If it's cold I just charge them up each evening. If I'm running them on the second setting and sometimes the third, I'll get a couple of full days out of the battery and that's leaving them on all day apart from at lunch time. I've had some of the top layer of my custom Conformable footbed ground away to make room for the element so it sits flat within the insole, and with the layer of fabric material over the top I can't even feel the element. The footbed has also been altered so that the cable sits flat on the underside. Hubby did mine but I'm sure you could find a bootfitter to help out?

I've never had a problem with the battery packs coming off the clip which is attached to my booster/strap or damage from chairlifts. But I have taped the cables which run up the back of my Zipfits to help protect them as I frequently take my liner out of the shells to dry them. The cable and the plastic bit that plugs into the battery pack could be damaged if you're not careful with them.
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juliad wrote:
. But I have taped the cables which run up the back of my Zipfits to help protect them as I frequently take my liner out of the shells to dry them. The cable and the plastic bit that plugs into the battery pack could be damaged if you're not careful with them.


just buy some boot dryers - they are about £25 and you pop them in when you get back to the chalet, turn them on and by bed time boots are dry. no need to take liners out and risk damaging cables (we have them-ic heaters fitted as well)
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