 Poster: A snowHead
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Ok, so i'm a long time skiboarder (skiing background) but new member on here, I was just curious to see if there were any members on here that also steered to the dark side?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks for that one.... though i have had a look and it's the typical arrogant 12yo immaturity one expects from ski and board forums with plenty of flaming...
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Think there were 1-2 devout bladers last season, but in general sH are unlikely to admit such affinity.
A handful have certainly had a giggle on them, even on bashes, but well that was more wtf than a roffle.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You need to investigate the Junk Show episodes from Revel8 Skiboards on youtube.
Or the media section on the skiboard forum here: http://www.skiboardsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15
As for it having a point yet? what makes skiing objectively better or any other skiing dicapline any better than annother?
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Skiing - you can go faster with more control than other wintersports discipline, touring and traversing is easiest, powder easy on the the right kit
Snowboarding - different types of turns, intuitive flow in powder due to float, like for like novices can ride deep snow easiest
Telemarking - all about the turn and elegance
Monoskiing - a bit of old school style
Skiboarding?
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Skiing - you can go faster with more control than other wintersports discipline, touring and traversing is easiest, powder easy on the the right kit
Snowboarding - different types of turns, intuitive flow in powder due to float, like for like novices can ride deep snow easiest
Telemarking - all about the turn and elegance
Monoskiing - a bit of old school style
Skiboarding?
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Skiboarding is similar to all of those diciplines.
Skiboarding: freedom whilst riding, great feedback from the terrain, easy to pick up and yet difficult to master, different type of flow while riding.
If anything i think that skiiers (dependant on kit but i'm talking general all mountain skis) are no faster than a set of Lacroix boards. I find skiing on my Liberty Phil Larose Pro 171s easier than skiboarding as the skis do more work. Skis are more forgiving in the park as there is a lot of margin for error. Snowboards work in the pow but then you could argue why would you ever want to ride pontoons in the pow if a snowboard is better? There are many reasons people decide to chose a different sport or different types of skis / boards / skiboards / snowblades and i just don't see why there is so much of a devide among snow sports enthusiasts. As far as i'm concerned you can come down the slope on your butt as long as you're having a good time doing it.
With monoskiing yes there is a bit of oldschool style but skiboards (propper ones not snowblades) were out before the first twintip.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Don't know not seen any top class skiboarding beyond the Pain McShonkley classic which keeps the dream alive
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Never seen so many 'experts' spend so much time on their bottoms. The 'dream' would appear to require much padding around that area ... and the hips ... and a helmet .... and wrist supports ... and some form of back brace. And half a brain.
Seriously, the 'sport' has died enough times - give it a decent burial.
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what makes skiing objectively better or any other skiing dicapline any better than annother?
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:the ability to stay upright and in control for more than 15 seconds, for a start.
(Sorry about this - just giving my inner 12yo an airing.)
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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HAHA nice one Ratty, As for the sport dying we could say that about a lot of sports.
The ability to stay upright can be contested while looking at any skiier or boarder for that matter.
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| Urban_freestyle wrote: |
As far as i'm concerned you can come down the slope on your butt as long as you're having a good time doing it.
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This of course is right, but skiboarding evangelists have 3 problems to contend with:
1) They persist in flying in the face of popular nomenclature which will always know them as blades
2) No non-user over about 14 could ever consider they'd be cool unless they also think wearing a jester hat is normal attire.
3) Too many gibbon stance incompetent users as a proportion of the population of total users.
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You know it makes sense.
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The ability to stay upright can be contested while looking at any skiier or boarder for that matter.
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yeah, the difference is that skiiers/boraders tend to be doing it from an upright stance.
I'm just kidding anyway (although it has to be said from personal observation that all of fatbob's points are accurate) - I'm more than happy for skiboarders to putter around on the mountain. They are much less intrusive and less slope damaging than certain other types of users ..... {tries hard not to look at the boarders}
The real grip I have is that they cannot agree what a skiboard actually is. Used to be anything <1m with a non-adjustable binding but various manufacturers seem to be punting out +1m skiboards now. What's that about????
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I can agree that a vast majority of people on short skis, blades etc don't know what they are doing and give the minority of good riders a bad name. I can also agree about the changing of definition. I believe it used to be a sub 100cm ski which is SYMETRICAL (first falling step for snowblades) that uses a standardised 4x4 non release binding (they were always adjustable)
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Poster: A snowHead
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They're called blades. Live with it.
They are worse at every single aspect of mountain travel than skiing. Still have never ever seen anyone (in the flesh on on video) skiing/blading well on them, or looking in anyway good or stylish.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The thing that confuses me is that between years upon years of combined seasonaire experiences in the general community, no-one I've ever met, or has posted online, about "that ripping skiboarder" they knew. Funny that :\
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Dudes, can't you tell when someone starts a fake account to troll you? 
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no-one I've ever met, or has posted online, about "that ripping skiboarder" they knew.
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That's because most snowbladers are 'tards..
And yet again there is annother forum that consists of people so far up their own asses that their own sport is the best that they won't welcome change or something different. Well done for being like all the other forums out there.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Urban_freestyle, no-one is saying that their sport is best, just that snowblading is rubbish 
Also, it's hardly new or different, people have been peddling short skis since the 80s and they've never really caught on to the mainstream. Plenty of other new innovations that have happened in that time (snowboards and twintips spring to mind particularly...) are now widely accepted, so it's not a case that people will not welcome change. Yet snowblades are not very popular. Don't you think that says something?
FWIW I spent an afternoon on some blades and it was pretty entertaining, it was a good laugh. But ultimately nothing more than that.
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Urban_freestyle, very best of luck to you and your pals (if you find any). I look forward to bumping into you on the slopes soon.
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most snowbladers are 'tards..
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Which is broadly the point everyone was making really. 
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| Lizzard wrote: |
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most snowbladers are 'tards..
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Which is broadly the point everyone was making really. |
agreed. but not everyone is..... it's like the whole skiiers hate snowboarders snowboarders hate skiiers thing. I mean really....
As for them not being new... you're right neither is mono skiing.
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Urban_freestyle, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not just a troll and are a real ski-boarder actually you'll probably find that most people here would be happy to ski or board with you regardless of what you have on your feet. I don't choose my friends on the basis of their brand of shoe or trainer after all.
And you well know that there isn't any skiers v snowboarders thing among people who are genuinely into those pursuits (rather than being more interested in status or tribalism). Everyone knows boards suck on traverses, but not as bad as digging for a ski on a powder day
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Yeah i'm a real skiboarder. and i have ridden snowblades for a few years.... and skis (Liberty Phil Larose Pro with salomon STH 12 bindings, Nordica Double Six boots and Salomon Patrol Poles) and also boarded for a week... although it ended with me flying superman style onto ice and fracturing 4 ribs. bad times.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| And you well know that there isn't any skiers v snowboarders thing among people who are genuinely into those pursuits (rather than being more interested in status or tribalism). |
Hear, hear!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Urban_freestyle wrote: |
| That's because most snowbladers are 'tards.. |
Good to hear that from a skiboarder as that's my only concern with them. Someone sliding down a slope with great skills is a pleasure to watch, regardless of what they are sliding on.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Urban_freestyle wrote: |
| That's because most snowbladers are 'tards.. |
Good to hear that from a skiboarder as that's my only concern with them. Someone sliding down a slope with great skills is a pleasure to watch, regardless of what they are sliding on. |
I think possibly one of the most agreeable comments here 
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You know it makes sense.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Someone sliding down a slope with great skills is a pleasure to watch, regardless of what they are sliding on. |
Although if they're too good it's always funny if they then fall on their arris/nose.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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If I remember rightly, blades started life as a training aid for ski racers so, initially, it was just the very best skiers on the mountain using them. Anyway, live & let live, each to their own etc.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Bode Swiller; Les Arcs' ESF ski school teaches the ski evolutif method, where students are taught parallel turns from the beginning, but on very short skis (that get progressively longer through the first week).
So yes they do use these short skiis to assist.
It's one of those good times where i enjoy it and that's what matters
I was just hoping that some other skiboarders were on this forum.
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I was just hoping that some other skiboarders were on this forum.
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Depends what you call a "skiboarder".
Plenty on here have used various sliding devices of shorter than normal length (Big Foots, Snowblades, 120's, etc.).
Some own said devices.
I know of approximately 3 people in the entire history of this forum that would publicly call themselves a "skiboarder". One of them is in this thread, and the other 2 from a thread last year.
Given that sliding on shorter than normal skis is a tiny majority of snow users, and within that tiny majority, there is another tiny majority that would use them as a preferred method of sliding rather than just an occasional "messing around on blades for 1 afternoon", I would say good luck finding other skiboard enthusiasts (on any forum, that's not a dedicated skiboard/snowblade forum).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Fair enough....
Might have to talk about my skis then....
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| Urban_freestyle wrote: |
Bode Swiller; Les Arcs' ESF ski school teaches the ski evolutif method, where students are taught parallel turns from the beginning, but on very short skis (that get progressively longer through the first week).
So yes they do use these short skiis to assist. |
ESF Les Arcs haven't taught Ski Evolutif for at least a decade, and quite possible a lot longer than that.
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That is very possible, Les acrs was the first resort in europe to offer this training style but i don't have any detail when.
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Does anyone remember things we called "fun carvers","extreme carvers" or "super carvers"?
circa 1998 about 140cm long and extremely waisted.
We could get hold of them or rent them almost every where.
I cant seem to find any mention of them any more.
Excuse me if it turns out these forum pages are full of them.
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Not familiar with those i'm affraid. I do remember Big Feet though!
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I am a skiboarder. Summit marauders with griffon freeride bindings
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Sounds like a nice setup. How do you find them? i have been looking at a new set (not that i need them) stuck between sherpas and the rockered condor... :-/
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Prefer the direct mount than the spruce riser.
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