 Poster: A snowHead
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ok ....no replies to my first post (boo) so i'll try my 2nd question....
on my x-wings the smartrack bindings are a bit loose on the toe clip..it appears that the rail underneath has become compressed and allows a slight wobble
is this repairable,dangerous or can i live with it ? has anyone else had this experience ? my mates nomads have the same binding system but called protrack (or maybe its the other way around) but they are newer and still ok
Are they only made for a short life? the salomons have had about 12 weeks snowtime
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hi cottonedon, welcome to snowheads, probably can't help you with the answer without a better description of the wobble but just wanted to show our hospitality!
Answer to your first question if you liked the tornados look at a similar spec Enduro!
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cottonedon, I had 3 pairs of Salomon skis with smartrak plates. If you're referring to slight 'play' in the toepiece when there's no boot in it, then from memory (I haven't got them here to check) they all do that. It's caused by the toepiece being adjustable forwards and backwards on the rail for different length boots, a bit like a rental binding is, and it's the slack in the locking system. If you put your ski boot in the binding and close the heel piece I think you'll find all the play is taken up and it's solid. Test it yourself - if there's no play once the boot is in, don't worry about it, it's not dangerous and isn't going to fall off. All bindings have a certain amount of movement built into them to cope with the stresses of skiing; this is just part of this system. I've never noticed any issue when actually skiing them.
Couple of other thoughts:
If you're worried about the rail being compressed (which you don't need to be) just slide the bindings off by holding up the spring loaded lugs - the rail then falls off and you can re shape it if you want but it really doesn't matter.
You don't mention which model binding you have but if it's a 9 series and the wobble you're referring to is within the toepiece when the boot is locked in (you can 'rock' the front of the boot side to side) then tighten the wing adjustment and stick some threadlock in it - it's manual and has a reputation for working loose. You might want to get a qualified tech to do this and test it.
With regards to your other question, the Enduro XT800 is the current equivalent and has had excellent reviews everywhere but don't expect Snowheads to endorse it 'cause it hasn't got a 120mm waist and it's not made in someone's shed 
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cottonedon, ....welcome to SHs - good posts in response so far. I have a pair of crossmax V12 deep in the pile, and that has the same protrac - are yours the Z12 or Z10 bindings? all of these have a small amount of play, but to check, put a boot in one and then the other and then compare. You can fettle the rails a little but I'm not going to recommend it since bending can stretch the metal and a wavy track is a dud track. If there's a big difference in the play in the different binding L and R then take it to S+R or someone and most likely they will fix for nowt.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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cheers guys
that seems to sum it all up
they are the z12...i think the problem probably comes from kicking the toepiece to remove ice/crud from the boot sole (duh..i don't do that anymore)
thanks for the info on the enduro XT800 will look at them
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cottonedon, ...ah that might explain it....my daughter (then age 7) managed to kick the front binding out of one of her skis by doing this...note that on Z series and the 810, 910 Salomon bindings, the REAR binding, when open, has quite a sharp edge - this is excellent for removing snow from the base of a boot simply by firmly running the sole (not kicking) along the sharp edge. Gets the ice off but doesn't wreck the bindings.
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thanks for that advice.....saves whacking the bjaysus out of my poles
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