 Poster: A snowHead
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For normal conditions, I've got a pair of Hovens that I find nice and comfortable, but since having laser surgery to correct my vision, I struggle with vision in flat light or overcast conditions? This has also led to very bad misreading of snow conditions and some big offs!
Anyone have the same problems? Photochromic lenses any good?
Any help appreciated!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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joe1890, we have been well pleased with our Smith IOs which arrived with double lenses - both good in poor light although later in the season the lighter one wasn't strong enough on a sunny day.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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joe1890, if you use the search function you'll find loads of info.
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joe1890, ...there's been some discussion of this on earlier threads but I note that you have a very specific issue re your laser surgery. Stick with your Hovens for better light conditions but for very flat light conditions have in your pack some VERY yellow tinted lens - the physiology and physics is contested somewhat but yellow and orange/yellow tint has the effect of highlighting contrast, which is the thing which helps in such conditions. The best lens I have found is the Smith yellow tint (cat1), now a bit difficult to get hold of. I wouldn't go for photochromatics. I have some Scott photochromatics and they are excellent for bright days. They are NOT the best for flat light, my decade-old smiths are streets ahead. I've discussed this with dozens of climbers and skiers over the years and all of us have gravitated to yellow tint for the poorest light. And in many circumstances in the mountains, in flat light, they can be a life-saver.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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valais2, Yeah it's not something I used to struggle with - driving at night can become a bit worrisome when I'm tired too, although that's a separate issue. Since the surgery, I just find my eyes aren't quite as sensitive as they used to be in terms of the flat light conditions. There any goggles out there with easily interchangeable lenses that come recommended?
spyderjon, I'll have a butchers - stupidly didn't actually think of looking on the search!
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joe1890, Smith IO
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joe1890, ....yes...as per previous post - Smith IO...also horrendously expensive but excellent oakleys. But I always carry two pairs of google (as well as two more for my kids) since the ones which have changing lens are a faff. But if you don't wear a pack (I have to in order to carry enough water etc) then the interchangeable ones do make sense.
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I actually have exactly the same problem to the point that sometimes I just feel dangerous in certain light conditions. I was "zapped" about 5 years ago. I have some Oakley crowbars which I have bought a few lenses for but the best ones are the HI Yellow. I also find that I don't like too dark a lens whatever the sunlight, I use a "oakley speak" Pink Iridium normally rather than the black and for cycling I've switched out the black lenses for a Persimon.
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I have always used Vuarnet 3 band sunglasses yellow for all lights, they are big enough to use until heavy snow and are exceptional in flat /bad light, available also as prescription and I have never had pink eye even on glaciers. Only complaint would be the alteration of colours because of the lens ability.
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rggdxb, yeah I completely understand. Purely out of interest, which treatment did you have? I went for LASEK rather than LASIK - better for the rugby.... and I couldn't afford wavefront! Conversely, I find that for cycling and brighter conditions, I actually need a darker lense than normal.
valais2, I don't normally carry a pack, but my HH baggy jacket does have a goggle compartment. Smith IO looks swanky, and everyone seems to be saying the same thing..
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joe1890, I use Zeal Detonators photochromic and found them excellent in all types of light.
http://www.zealoptics.com/detonator-4750.html
Weather conditions change daily while you ski or ride, and you shouldn’t have to swap out your goggle lenses to accommodate. Check out the sick Zeal Detonator PPX Polarized Goggle. The Photochromic lens change whenever the light changes, so you get sweet clarity in low morning light and super sunny afternoon light. Ski powder or bask in the sun on the chairlift—the polarization cuts glare, and fulltime lens vents and fused anti-fog treatment keep out the mist.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I had Lasik as where I live it was roughly a third the price of the UK at the time. I don't have any over sensitivity to bright light which I have heard of from others but when I get tired after a lot of traveling or ah, hard living, I can get some haloing and my eyes can get dry. The contrast issue is one a few people I have spoken to have mentioned, don't know what it is that causes it though.
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Cynic, Yep, the Skilynxis a lovely lens.
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You know it makes sense.
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I got some Smith IO this year. Very pleased with them. Mine have the Ignitor Mirror as the universal lense and the Sensor mirror for flat light. In the end I did use both and the swapping was pretty simple though done inside in a restaurant. I found the Sensor worked well but once the sun came through much I needed to change back as I found it too bright. The Ignitor seems to have a really wide usage profile anyway and I could use them them no problem in some pretty poor conditions.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Oakley HI Yellow = the bomb for flat light
Note they are ONLY good for flat light / very low light - for me as soon as the conditions brighten up a touch they become too bright for me.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Another vote for the IO, They're awesome.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Apologies for a late post but I was in similar boat had laser eye surgery and found my eyes don't quite react the way they used to do. I have found addidas Goggles and glasses very good, there Light Stabilizing Technology (LST) lenses are brilliant using addidas' words they harmonise extreme light fluctuations which prevents eye fatigue.
In brighter conditions i use the LST Active lens which go from shadow in the trees or the odd cloud back into brilliant sunshine really nicely with good definition and in flat light ,over cast & snowy weather the LST Bright lens which give good definition but i do find due to the brightening effect i do have to ditch them as soon as the sun shows it self. I’m sure other manufacturers have lenses that do similar but i would ski with out them now. The lenses are really easy to change in both the glasses and goggles meaning you only have to carry one pair and slip the spare lens i your pocket.
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