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so they need more advanced gear, so they get even better, so I can't afford new stuff for myself, so they leave me even further behind. Dropped £600 (would have been £800 if it weren't for the sales) on new skis/boots for my daughter in the last 2 months with another £500 for her BASI1 course very soon. At this rate I won't be able to afford to ski myself 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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And then they expect you to take them skiing as well and intimidate or embarrass you too!
Are we parents all mugs?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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paper round?
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Y'see. I took my daughter for her first ski trip about 4 years ago. She wants to go again and keeps asking me to take her (she's nearly 19). At the start of each season she asks me if I'll take her and my answer is that I can only afford to take one person skiing and that's me. Selfish I know but that's how it is. 
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| halfhand wrote: |
| She wants to go again and keeps asking me to take her (she's nearly 19). At the start of each season she asks me if I'll take her and my answer is that I can only afford to take one person skiing and that's me. Selfish I know but that's how it is. |
Tell her to do a season...
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I think once they reach the age of gainful employment (part-time or otherwise) mine will be expected to make a reasonable contribution depending on income. No income - no trip - they can all work a season as mentioned above.
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Colin B, after your little one gets her badge she will be cranking in the big bucks at the dry slope and soon will have fat stacks of cheddar to splash out on new skis for the old man
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Colin B, I've been out shopping for a new car today and the principle/only selection criteria appears to be how comfortable it is for the kids in the back, price, mpg, affordability pale into insignificance!
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so they need more advanced gear, so they get even better, so I can't afford new stuff for myself, so they leave me even further behind.
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Expensive kit = better skier? Fallacious. She'd leave you behind even if she was wearing Dare2Be and skiing on Quechua hardware.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Colin B, lot of snobbery/parental oneupmanship going on around the club de ski - don't be fooled.
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You know it makes sense.
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My parents couldn't afford to take me skiing when I was a kid. And that was the end of it, until I could afford to take myself. Ho hum.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Pedantica, Never even dreamed of it when I was a kid, I started at 46. I now kid my parents that I was "neglected". One of the reasons I'm keen that my daughter can progress in something that we really enjoy doing together.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Same here, started at 45 and have the same problem as Colin keeping my kids in ski and snowboard gear!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Old enough for advanced gear and instructor courses = old enough to pay for 'em
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Not suggesting it's a problem, we all know it's not the cheapest of past-times. My point, badly point across probably, is that we all want our kids to improve which leads to increasing costs for them (gear, instruction, etc) as they do.
Don't worry I shall still scrimp and save to fuel my addiction also next winter (albeit on increasingly tatty gear) 
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I've paid for one ski holiday per year for my lads until they finish Uni. That means that next season I've only got on to pay for 
However, I think that i am a soft touch and that Megamum has got it right and they should have been contributing from the moment that they started earning (babysitting, teaching piano, retail).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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narc, at just 16 and still at school, I welcome your suggestions!!
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| Colin B wrote: |
| so they need more advanced gear, so they get even better, so I can't afford new stuff for myself, so they leave me even further behind. Dropped £600 (would have been £800 if it weren't for the sales) on new skis/boots for my daughter in the last 2 months with another £500 for her BASI1 course very soon. At this rate I won't be able to afford to ski myself |
Once she gets that BASI badge then she'll get the BASI pro-deal and costs will come down.
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| Colin B wrote: |
| narc, at just 16 and still at school, I welcome your suggestions!! |
16 is old enough to work outside of school - Thurs eve and Sat in retail was typical amongst my friends and I and that is even before summer holidays. With presumably no outgoings on rent, food etc. almost all of it will be disposable (and minimal tax): I bought a car, paid for the insurance, running costs, driving lessons, powerboat course, dinghy instructors course and a load of other things all while at school. All about priorities and how much you want it.
Obviously what you pay for your kids is up to you and I realise this is a lighthearted thread so I'm not trying to be an ar$e just saying a few years ago this is how I did it.
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narc, No problem, I was up delivering papers at 6.30 at 13 too but that was long ago. Not sure that it's quite as easy now, but I'm a soft sod too!
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Colin B, I was really lucky as a young one, verging on spoilt, but I used to work for what I wanted from about the age of 10 onwards. If i wanted a new wetsuit/bicycle/windsurf sail whatever it was priced up and a suitable number of hours allocated to it. Hours were worked off cutting the lawn, barrowing manure, digging the garden etc. Now looking back I'm quite sure that the hours didn't ever really match the price in any way and I'm also fairly sure that the records were regularly fudged to my benefit, but it did teach me to value what I had and to look after my kit.
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I'm pretty lucky with my parents, who are pretty generous (especially with holidays) but I still had to contribute/pay for my own kit. I did get my first kayak at 13 or so payed for, as a Christmas/Birthday present) as at that age it wasn't feasible for me to earn enough to buy one myself (I did work enough to earn a 40% discount off it though). I've bought every other boat, and most kit I've needed though (got my ski boots for doing well at A levels, and they helped pay my insurance and a few other things for my gap year, as even work every hour possible I was only barely able to afford my instructor course).
If you've got the spare cash there's no reason not to drop it on your kids, but I do see many people my age now starting jobs with no idea of what hard work is (NOT saying this is your kid btw).
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Interesting comments here from clarky999, rogg and narc, which chimes with a lot of what I heard from candidates (particularly successful ones ) at the Civil Service Selection Boards. Sure, this is a lighthearted thread, but it is indeed about priorities, and somebody who has worked to pay for a course, or their kit (or make a decent contribution towards it) has demonstrated important qualities. I think we were generous parents, too, when the kids were school/university age, but we'd have taken a very dim view if they had expected us to work for things they were not prepared to work for themselves. You can be generous without being indulgent.
My younger son, who is doing a Ph D in Italy, and is by no means well off, has invited me to Genoa next month to do an intensive Italian course with him, and at his expense. I am paying my own airfare, though, and will no doubt buy quite a few bottles of vino during the week.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Lizzard wrote: |
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so they need more advanced gear, so they get even better, so I can't afford new stuff for myself, so they leave me even further behind.
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Expensive kit = better skier? Fallacious. She'd leave you behind even if she was wearing Dare2Be and skiing on Quechua hardware. |
Dare2Be fleece and jacket has been as good as any North Face, Marmot, Mammut or Patagonia kit I've owned. And at a fraction of the price. Especially from TK Maxx
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Expensive kit = better skier? |
jjc-james used to open eurotests on old Rossi 9x's and was still quick enough
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You know it makes sense.
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Mine buy their own stuff now - but they are in their 30's and work as instructors in Meribel. I dread to think how much has been spent on their snowsports since they started at Easter 1983. But we do get 'free' instruction now when we visit (actual cost £10,000/hour???) They have both gone through the BASI system to level 4 and competed internationally for about 10 years before going into instructing when they retired from competition.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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We are taking ours skiing with us till they leave school and then once they leave home/go to uni they can come on the family Christmas trip for free as we like to see them. If poor student chooses not to spend her loan/wages from p/t job on skiing, but on books, materials, beer or clothes that's entirely up to her. Once they start earning they can pay for their own ski passes! Same with clothing/skis/boots. We bought the first set as gifts for daughter, and son will get some when he stops growing. If you are jammy you can get really good stuff in sales. Beggars can't be choosers. Son raised £2000 from hard work to go to Scout Jamboree last year so it can be done....even in small village/no shops/paper rounds/no bus to get somewhere to work...was very hard, but he washed a lot of cars.,
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Poster: A snowHead
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I started working in a local ski shop when I was 16. They did other sports too, so I started out in the summer, in one generic sports store full time over the holidays, and moved to their shop that did ski equipment as a Saturday boy in the winter, where I learned to service skis. What I earned didn't quite pay for my equipment, but it did mean my folks got a healthy discount when it came to buying stuff.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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FlyingStantoni, not until she gets her level 2! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Colin B wrote: |
| so they need more advanced gear, so they get even better, so I can't afford new stuff for myself, so they leave me even further behind. Dropped £600 (would have been £800 if it weren't for the sales) on new skis/boots for my daughter in the last 2 months with another £500 for her BASI1 course very soon. At this rate I won't be able to afford to ski myself |
The DNA is strong in this one.
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However they do need better hardware to advance, we watched the L2A race kids training on Easter Saturday, none were on Quechua gear 
I'm sure it's every bit as bad as everywhere 