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Touring in mid April

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Is it too late in the year to plan on a weeks touring in the 3V's. hoping to get in some 1000 metre D+- days

going to morzine tomorrow to do some tours but looks to be so warm that we may be thwarted and i am now doubting if mid April is a good idea.... any thoughts from the residents ski tourers....
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skimottaret, cursed I say. CURSED!
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FlyingStantoni, starting to think that wrt touring !
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going to morzine tomorrow to do some tours but looks to be so warm that we may be thwarted and i am now doubting if mid April is a good idea..

several weather systems will have floated through before mid-April. Best make plans for mid April shortly before mid April..... wink
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skimottaret, mid-April - no worries!

Bit busy for the next 3 weeks but drop me an email closer to the time for some ideas..
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skimottaret, prime touring season!
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Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Up early. Tour. Back for a beer in the afternoon sunshine. Cool
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offpisteskiing, will do, (had a couple tours planned from your suggestions out of Mottaret for last month but weather didnt cooperate)

Arno, hope so !! just was concerned that a long day will be too soft to get the amount of "up " i need to get in...
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skimottaret wrote:
Arno, hope so !! just was concerned that a long day will be too soft to get the amount of "up " i need to get in...


On warm days you need to be up and out early (e.g. up at 5:00 skinning up at 06:00). Last year I did a tour with English friends and it was really warm it was the warmest April for years. I wanted to be on the go for 6:00 am but they wanted a drink the night before and breakfast at 7 ("we are on holiday"). All the other tourers were long gone before we even got up. Other tourers skinned up frozen slopes in the morning and skied down firn (soft snow) around mid Day. (which works out at 300m / hour circa 4 to 5 hours, with up to 1 hour for lunch and drink breaks). We were above our knees in slush and had to turn back, I ended up setting off a wet avalanche. rolling eyes
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what DB says

it's a bit miserable getting up at 4.30/5am but once you get going it's fine. you also get two wonderful experiences:

1. being out in the backcountry as the sun rises
2. skiing back down to the green valley, having a beer and lunch then snoozing in the sun all afternoon Cool
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Arno wrote:
it's a bit miserable getting up at 4.30/5am but once you get going it's fine.

skimottaret, good luck with negotiations with MrsFS!
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hmmmmm waking up at 430 and then skinning uphill on rock hard frozen slopes for 5 hours, then skiing slush whats not to like about that Toofy Grin
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This is what happens if you don't get up early:
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=76044

skimottaret, are you planning on day trips or a tour?
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You know it makes sense.
skimottaret, yeah - this really sucks:


Leaving Refuge Adele Planchard by Scoz, on Flickr


IMG_0836 by Scoz, on Flickr


Untitled by Scoz, on Flickr


IMG_0833 by Scoz, on Flickr
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altis, fab write up and confirms a lot of my suspicions... just day trips for me.. adding sleeping at altitude on the floor in a refuge to the above sounds like just way too much fun for me.... snowHead
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I've never had to sleep on the floor in a hut. We usually end up kipping alongside each other in a big wide bed - with a foam matress and blankets (take your own sleeping bag liner). The chorus of snoring is the biggest problem!

Toilet arrangements can range from variable to primitive though. The funniest was somewhere in the Pyrenees that just had a big long slopeing pipe. Unfortunately, the wind was in the wrong direction and the toilet paper kept blowing back at me!
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In Morzine at the moment and was hoping to get in three big tours.. very warm and even an early start wouldnt have worked so we binned all touring avi risk 4. virtually all south facing slopes have slipped and lots of fresh web slabs on all slope aspects.... way too warm and no overnight refreeze , the whole thing just seemed too sketchy
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