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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Volkl Mantra
I like a nice banana loaf 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Perhaps a little more info/thoughts/comments - I know the offer is too good to refuse but it is not tea time yet !
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The best ski I have used that sounds like what you are looking for is the Atomic Nomad. This was a couple of years ago, so they may not be current, but they are a powerful beast if still going.
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Wot shoogly said, as long as I get half the cake, the chocolate half! 
Seriously, for how you describe your skiing and ability they should be on the list of things to try.
A friend that likes to blast has Nordica Hellcats - also could fit the bill - but suspect they've replaced that model - worth a look for what the replacement is.
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WRECKER, I know, I thought I'd be blunt and to the point 
Mantra is a great ski. I looked at them when I was looking for a similar ski a couple of seasons back. I ended up with the K2 hardside (which should also possibly be on your list). Mantra was a bit stiffer than the hardside, but carved beautiful big open turns and was nimble enough if you keep on them all the time. I discarded them because I don't think I'd have the energy to be on it all the time. Hardside is a wee bit more forgiving.
To be honest, I probably would have got them back then if they had rocker. The Hardsides did. The Mantras now have rocker so would be my choice now I think.
One thing i'd point out is that they were fine in soft bumps, but bumps that were more on the firm side were not the mantras playground. They'd be perfect for everything else you say though.
http://volkl.com/ski/skiis/models/mantra
One other ski i looked at but couldn't get in the UK at the time was the Faction Alias. A wee bit wider than the Mantra and now renamed the Agent.
http://www.factionskis.com/en/gear/skis/agent100pro.php
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This is great guys - just the sort of help I need - Thank you
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Chris Bish is right - i have the Atomic Nomad Blackeye (82mm waist) - my stats are shorter (5'9'') and lighter (13 stone) than yours but I have the 167, which comes up to just above eye level, so one or two sizes bigger should be about right for you.
The Blackeye is piste-biased but also good in powder - above it in the range are the Crimson (slightly wider - i think 88mm waist, more off piste oriented i believe but still good on the groomers) and the Savage (wider again, big mountain dedicated ski).
It sounds like from your description that the Blackeye or the Crimson would be your best bet.
And no, I don't work for Atomic! 
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thepowmeister, And indeed, it was the Crimson I tried. If I wanted something more powerful than my Missions that is what I would go for. But I don't!
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crimson is still there, but if you want something a little wider 93mm underfoot (still great on piste but rocks in the pow) then try the nomad savage Ti, probably in a 186
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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WRECKER, we both acquired last years Mantras on sale in the summer and they re absolutely everything we wanted. I have found no weak points.
For reference, we are both on 177cms - me: 168cms, 62kgs - her 165cms, 57kgs. Haven't noticed any excess stiffness, but then our other skis are FIS race models.
I haven't read anything anywhere else suggesting that anything else gets close.
I am skeptical about this years rocker making them any better, but definitely worth a shot.
I also remain deeply skeptical that I would want anything any fatter for everyday use.
Whereas I would be quite happy taking the Mantras anywhere as my only ski (and in fact will be doing just that).
I don't like cake.
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Is the Head Peak 82 worth a look?
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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WRECKER, I've bought a pair of Rossi S3s this season and am very impressed with them. 98 underfoot with a 15m sidecut radius at 178cm. I spent a lot of time off-piste on them over Christmas / New Year and they are great off-piste and surprisingly capable on-piste - they are way easier to carve than they should be and can be performance short-turned. They seem to have very, very fast bases. The only downside I've found is a bit of juddering doing short turns on (proper) hardpack.
If you're looking for something narrower, then an instructor friend is raving about his Dynastar Outland Pros.
I'm 174, 85kg and around an ISIA level skier.
Unfortunately I like cake far too much!
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Poster: A snowHead
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WRECKER, I normally don't pimp my own products but our own 189 Preacher would be worth a look. The search function will bring up some reviews on here and we have demo skis around the world.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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FlyingStantoni, sorry WRECKER, just need to ask a question....... how short are the S3's? as I measured some of the 186cm version in a shop last season, (they didn't have any 178) against various other skis and they seem only to be about 182 ish, are the 178cm very short? and off piste do they ski their length?
I realise on piste they will be very short. But i need a very quick turning ski for trees, gulleys etc and the 178cm S7 was too big i tried at xmas, (in a width sense) they didn't have any s3's.
I am about same height as you, but 15kgs lighter (not allowed to eat cake, makes me ill!)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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carroz, I haven't measured the S3s and they're in Morzine, so I can't measure them sorry. I'd describe them as very nimble though.
I haven't skied S7s, but am told that they ski a lot differently.
I don't know if you've seen this thread, but at that money they are very much worth a punt!
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FlyingStantoni, Thanks, seen that thread, but don't live anywhere near a uk decathalon unfortunately 
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Surprised no one has mention the Head iTitan yet. Maybe a little too piste biased.
Until I destroyed them the Atomic Ti Crimsons were by far the best do it all ski I've had.
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WRECKER, forgot to ask, you mentioned you are looking for a ski 80% off piste. What sort of BC riding are you doing. Multi day tours, lift accessed BC, trees, pow?
Lots of variables but every all mountain ski is biased towards something weather it be piste, park or BC. At 80% off piste you'll be looking for a back country biased ski. Best advise is always demo first.
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Dot. - I have looked up the 189 Preacher - do you know where I could demo/try a pair (anywhere around 3 vallies) etc? Thanks WRECKER
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WRECKER, We have a demo center in Chamonix or depending when you go you could take the demo skis from the UK with you.
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