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Knees and turn radius of a ski...

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My knees are amongst the worst kept part of my body... follows years of footballing, kayaking, especially crashing off my mountain bike etc etc.

I have quite a large turn radius on my skis. If I was to get a pair of skis that are around the 15-16m radius mark, would this put increased twisting pressure on my knees as I crank through the quick short radius turns?
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shoogly, excuse a non-technical answer, but I inadvertently hurt my knees quite badly, trying to get on to their edges in short radius turns, a pair of skis with a much larger turn radius than I had been accustomed to. I've still got some swelling, many weeks later.
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I'd have thought it ws the other way round; shorter radius skis should be able to do short turns more efficiently.
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Mosha Marc, me too. I think that, as well as being a technical numpty generally, I may have misunderstood the OP. Embarassed
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shoogly, I assume shorter radius = thinner underfoort, which would also put less pressure on your knees I'd reckon...
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wide radius normally means wider underfoot. This means more torque on the knee when on an edge eg carving on piste, so shorter rad = easier on the knee if you are piste skiing. But, fatter skis usually give an easier ride in bumps and offpiste, so it depends what you're doing
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A slalom ski say 67 tr 11.3 used in tight slalom like turns will give your knees, hips and back a good work out.
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i think skis designed to make shorter radius turns should be easier on the knees if you are trying to achieve the same radius - ice skates dont hurt my knees

However, i remember reading somewhere that when carving skis made their way onto the tour, the pros were having many more knee injuries because of the higher torque that was being applied to them in the carved turns

Dont think that answer helsp any single jot


Sorry
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Pedantica, your first post I think would make sense, trying to get a longer radius ski to do short turns with too much edge angle would put a lot of strain on the knees, doing the same short turns with the same ski but flatter angles will reduce the
strain.

Maybe it's a bit more about how we ski a particular ski rather than "what" we ski will dictate how our knees hold up, forcing a long radius ski to do short turns with the wrong edge angle or without bending it will probably hurt as much as not being ready to react in time to the turns a short radius ski can achieve.

Any thoughts of forcing a ski to turn through twisting is going to hurt, if the ski doesn't want to do the turns you are looking to achieve either flatten it, bend it, or a mixture of both.
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as someone with a dodgy knee, i think wide skis on hardpack put the most stress on my knee

can't see that short turn radius skis, skied properly, will be a problem. they may have a tendency to hook up when you don't want them to, which could cause issues
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Arno wrote:
i think wide skis on hardpack put the most stress on my knee


I can see the theory behind that, but will it make that much difference? The change in angle at the knee must be small.
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Mosha Marc, to be fair, I haven't done a side-by-side comparison because I don't own any skinny skis any more
i do know that skiing powder on fat skis makes my knees much happier than skiing icey bumps
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Arno, ahh, but would your knees be any happier skiing icy bumps on skinny skis???

We should be told wink
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Mosha Marc, that was how I blew my ACL out in the first place!
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Arno, ergo, fatter skis are good.

Glad we sorted that out. Next.............................
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shoogly, my take is that for any given turn shape, a ski with a shorter ski radius will be easier on your knees. Caveat is if a turn becomes carved on the shorter ski radius ski while remaining skidded on the longer ski radius ski, in which case the carved turn on the shorter ski radius ski will produce more stresses on the knee.
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Sorry, know it's a bit late, only just seen the thread! I have terrible knees and have finally stopped taking my proper slalom race skis that I use on the plastic or in the snowdome on holiday with me cos without fail skiing on them for one whole day on holiday makes me unable to walk for about a week! (due to the pain in my knees, not just general lack of fitness Toofy Grin ). Those skis are 155cm salomon 3Vs, my snow skis are 160cm K2 moto S comps, which are a fairly detuned slalom ski, definitely a level down from the 3Vs. Can't do quite the same silly small turns but still good fun. Would imagine, as others have said, that if you are just trying to do the same turn size on different length skis then the effect might be different but I find using slightly longer, larger radius skis and skiing the size of turns they're meant to do is much better than spending all day doing teeny slalom turns on my slalom skis! Basically longer turns = less knee pain Very Happy
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