Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Boredsurfing, OK, it's just an experiment. According to my 1993 Michelin map, there might be a few new motorways down that way now.
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Hotel Etap, Luxembourg Sud. Clean, modern, cheap, next to motorway. Used it several times and will use it again. Perfect functional pit stop.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Bode Swiller, there's an Etap hotel near the motorway just south of Luxembourg ville:
http://www.etaphotel.com/gb/hotel-6768-etap-hotel-luxembourg-sud/location.shtml
It's a good route to avoid tolls and get the cheap diesel though the advantage isn't as great as it used to be, the autoroute between Calais/Dunkerque and Lille is free, I found the section around Mons in Belgium to be busy, but it empties out across the Ardennes twd Lux, the only section that isn't motorway is Pirmasens to Landau, but it looks like the road has been upgraded since I drove it, then it's straightforward onto Stuttgart, Munich and all points south, though I've encountered jams on the Munich-Salzburg section.
This list shows fuel prices across Europe, 12 cents/litre cheaper in Lux compared to France & Belgium:
http://www.drive-alive.co.uk/fuel_prices_europe.html
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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Jonny Jones, great minds think alike!!!
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Via Luxembourg is the one of the fastest toll free routes to France and you can cut across to Germany via several fast links. The two obvious routes to Austria are via Franfurt/Wuszburg/Nuremberg or Kralsruhe/Stuggart/Augsburg. Both are via Munich but the latter is good for St Anton and Ischgl if you go via Ulm/Bregenz instead of Munich
Cheap hotels are dotted around the city/town bypasses in France but you do get them in some of the Belgium and Luxembourg. Go to Accor site (Owns Novotel, Formula One, Etap, Ibis, Mercure.....) and choose what you can afford. We normally go for Ibis which is popular in Germany but slightly dearer than Etap for a proper wash room and free internet. Check for free parking in the selected hotel. There is normally a small charge if you choose to stay inside a busy city where parking is at its premium.
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Jonny Jones, luigi, that'll do me, thanks very much.
34 quid. Bargain.
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cran
cran
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Drive at night.
I usually get a 10pm ish tunnel out of the UK and drive through Belgium and Luxembourg with no traffic and no tolls.
Last time (a few months ago) I think diesel was about 1.19€ in Luxembourg compared to 1.47€ in France so quite a big difference...
No point getting an overnight stop, if you decide you need some sleep just park up for a couple of hours in a service station for free.
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cran, Trouble is Bode Swiller, is old and needs his shut eye
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Bode Swiller, top up in Dover at those prices
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Dunno about Diesel, but 98 octane is about €1.57/litre here, so add a bit more for the Autobahn, and another €0.02/litre if it's the weekend (Thurs-Mon). So tank up in Luxembourg+Austria is my recommendation, and avoid tanking up in Germany.
Most Ibis i've stayed in have had paid-for WiFi. One in NL you could get a 1hour free token from the bar. One in Munich had free WiFi in the other Accor group hotel next door, but Ibis was paid for. Could access the adjacent hotel's free wifi from my room and the bar/terrace
No idea of any hotels in the suggested vicinity, though.
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cran, I used to do that... drive until my eyes bleed / pull over and kip etc but t'other half assumes I'll probably die that way so the compromise (aka I give in) is to stop somewhere. Anyway it's not a race. Always do the homeward leg without a stopover.
At my fuel consumption that price difference will save me a tenner! So, not doing it for that reason, just trying an alternative route to the usual two down through Germany.
Boredsurfing, the truth hurts sometimes.
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You know it makes sense.
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There's an easy-to-find Carrefour in Calais that sells fuel at much lower prices than the motorway services. My strategy is to arrive in Calais with an empty tank, and to fill up there, Luxembourg and Austria. With a c28mpg (fully laden motorway speeds with 5 mountain bikes attached) Discovery, savings over both legs of the journey are pretty significant - enough to fund a smugly satisfied smile, anyway.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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and make sure you get your vignette for Austria! it cost me a lot with work time skipping from Switzerland to Germany via Austria...
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