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Warm November

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Just got in to my car and the temperature gauge read 14 degrees outside temp! Then as my wife and I were driving she was bitten by one of two mosquitos that have appeared inside the car!
With 3 snow trips booked this wintet this warm autumn is not filling me with confidence that this winter will be a cold one. Maybe its just the south coast that warmish at the moment?
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this warm autumn is not filling me with confidence that this winter will be a cold one

Puzzled is there any evidence that temperatures at the beginning of November are indicative of whether the winter will be cold or not? In the short term, I wouldn't have thought so. I remember a few years ago there was big early snow in November and people got very over-excited about how that meant they'd have loads of snow for their holidays at New Year. Then, later in the month, the FL went up to over 3000m and it all melted.

It's far, far, too early to be either convinced it will be great, or convinced it will be rubbish. Start thinking about conditions for Christmas and New Year in about a month.
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pam w, Yes last year there was lots of early snow in France and then it all got washed away and the season never got going really. Getting the warm weather now just makes bonfire night tonight easier to stand outside.
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Can my title of "Biggest Users Pre Season Overreaction" now be passed on please? I wasn't this bad last year was I? Toofy Grin
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ill relax. It could go either way I guess. Just strange seeing mosquitos at this time of year in the UK.
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Here in the garden of England we've had a lot of ladybirds in the house in the last few days, and mozzies are still buzzing around occasionally. It's been a warm autumn so far - the ground's been so hard that four of my boys, all scrum halfs, have broken their arms playing rugby.
I still don't know if this means anything - a mate who's a buyer for a major retailer employs a company to forecast when seasonal changes will occur, so that they have the right stock in their shops at the right time. The company which charge a huge fee, apparently get it right 45% of the time, so he recxkons they'd be better ignoring their advice. I've offered to make it up for a few hundred grand. My point is that no one, not even the 'pros' can accurately predict the weather in the medium and long term.
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daveyladboy wrote:
Here in the garden of England we've had a lot of ladybirds in the house in the last few days

There have been many ladybirds in Tyrol too, which rather surprised me in October.
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Yes last year there was lots of early snow in France and then it all got washed away and the season never got going really
Yeah, Mrs MA and I never got going in January in Espace Killy, the 3 Vallees in March or back at Espace Killy in May Sad ...

Pretty awful really. Wish we'd listened to the "There's no snow" doom mongers and hadn't bothered. Dreading another 3 trips like those wink .......
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Anyway, this winter, there's a lot more snow than there was in early November 2006. That year, at Tignes, there was absolutely no snow other
than on the glacier, which was very hard & icy. It turned out to be a normal winter for snow cover.
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mountainaddict, brilliant! Very Happy
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Not to let the facts get in the way of a good story but 2006-2007 was a poor snow year in the French mountains, so not the best example to pick

http://pistehors.com/news/ski/comments/0741-retrospective-on-the-2006-2007-ski-season/

Too early to say what this year will bring. Early November snow doesn't last at resort run level into the ski season. Wait till after the 15th and not really worth worrying until you arrive as it can snow a meter on Friday and you can be skiing excellent conditions the next day.

The rain will have filled up the snow making reservoirs anyway.
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2006-2007 was a poor snow year in the French mountains
Oops davidof - I stand corrected** as I wasn't there for the whole season. Embarassed Embarassed I was mixing up my winters and had thought we went back to France in Jan 2007 - when we were actually in Canada at that time. We did return to France in late March 2007 though - to find fresh snow and perfect conditions in the 3 Vallees - see pic below.

**In my specially commissioned orthopaedic footwear wink

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I could produce some beautiful snowy pictures from last season, and some very unsnowy pictures from previous seasons which were actually much better. Pictures are nice, but no substitute for the hard evidence. wink And that's without talking about the huge variation throughout many seasons, and between different locations even within the same massif, let alone across the enormous swathe of the Alps from west to east. Who cares if the Year Dot broke all records for dumps of fresh powder, if the week you went, it was rubbish?

Or vice versa.

This coming season is a closed book - nobody knows what will happen. The only certain thing is that current weather cannot be used as any kind of predictor of what will be happening in resort X in week Y. Just as well, really!
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We did return to France in late March 2007 though - to find fresh snow and perfect conditions in the 3 Vallees - see pic below.


Second half of March 2007 was a fantastic fortnight of great conditions at all altitudes. As a lot of people have said on snowheads, pick the right week and right area and your ski holiday can be fantastic. Wait and see wink.

The snowpack, at least in France, tends to be made up of 3 or 4 important dumps through the season. Miss one of these and the season can be below average. It is hard to predict. In general I would expect snow cover above 1800m from around the last week of November.
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DONT PANIC !!!! Toofy Grin
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Erm it's only the 5th.
One year, it was 15C in the evening in December... on the evening of our company Glühwein session... now that is wrong, and the time to start getting a little bit concerned.
Turned up in Les Gets to grass one January (not sure if it was the same season), and still got a full 6 days skiing in.

Oh and seen quite a few Ladybirds in the last week or 2 here. Nothing like the ladybird epidemic last yr.
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look does this cheer you up



this is looking out of the living room window at this precise moment
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mountainaddict, you say that but it still wasn't a great season... Yeah of course there were good weeks to be had, but it was still a poor year for snow as a whole.

pam w put it quite well I think.
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Obertauern had no snow at this time last year and still opened on time about 24th with plenty cover
We were there in early January and conditions were excellent
We were also in Ischgl mid March in great cover though as we had not been there at that time of year before I dont know how it compared to previous years
As others have said its only the week or two before you go that matters big storm = good Very Happy big thaw = bad Sad
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mountainaddict, you say that...
Correct. I did. I acknowledge and accept everything that's been said - but was only trying to illustrate that anyone who skied perfect snow in the 3 Vs in the March 2007 week that we did wouldn't have thought that 06-7 was a poor snow year - you can only speak as you find!

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I could produce some beautiful snowy pictures from last season, and some very unsnowy pictures....
I just like posting photos - and seeing other people's too!! Anyway, that could be very entertaining actually! Think I'll start a best vs worst snow conditions photo thread tonight wink
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Oh that's what the grande motte looks like when you don't have to scramble over the rocks to get to the chairlift. Wink
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It's not warm today. 8º and constant drizzle. That's more like November.
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It has been warm over in the Alps. At this end (Vienna, Austria) we saw almost 20 Deg C on the weekend. The temps are however forecast to drop significantly this week so that many of the ski resorts will experience sub-zero temps.
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Yep same here queen bodecia, though Saturday evening was warm enough to be at an outdoor gig without needing an overcoat.
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I had a BBQ last night and woke to 15 degrees at 7AM this morning....
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