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'Shimming' a child's boot.

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So we've bought some boots for Junior. They're too big. This was partially deliberate (to try and wring longevity out of them), and partially an accident (I wanted to go oversized as I say, but not quite this much). They're probably about 2 or 3 cm too long all told.

So I'm going to try and bulk them up a bit around the liner. Any tips on how best to do this? Behind the heel? In front of the toe? Wrap gaffa tape round it over and over again to uniformly bulk it up? Not worry about it since he'll only be getting trundled along at 0.01mph on the flat anyway?

(Expect a complementary thread in a couple of years time, asking how best to stanley knife bits off the liner to make his by-then enormous feet still fit into a pair of boots that are 2 sizes too small. We're as tight as a swan's chuff in our house.)
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paulio, would it not be better to buy the next size down on ebay, then sell them when he has grown out of them? and just keep these until he does grow into them?
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He's only 2.

My feeling is that they don't need to be a great fit. We're not sending him racing. They just probably need snugging up a bit.

(Amusingly my own boots are a full adult size too big as well. That's probably why when Inside Out made me do the 'boots unbuckled' drill I found it totally easy - because it's no different to how I ski normally. I may as well be wearing a pair of wellies.)
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We had the same dilemma with our little one when he was about that age - we got him the smallest boot we could find, but it was still way too big!

So we just used a thick sock. At that age all he's going to do is passively slide around: he doesn't need super edge-control.

From age 2 to current age 4 he's been in Roces adjustable boots, and it was only early this year we exapnded them from the smallest to medium setting, so should last at least another year.
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paulio, Thats very little, with my eldest a number of years ago,(shes now 11) her boots were a bit loose, so were given a inner sole to stick under the liner (had to tape it down so it did not move) and another pair of boots she had later had a velcroed in piece at the end of the liner done by the manufacturer, and an additional plastic base board which we discovered later and took out, so they lasted another season...some ideas for you.
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paulio, Annecy, is that far from Cham? Toofy Grin
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I was in Cham the other day, but I didn't know where you guys were otherwise I'd have popped in and said hello Smile
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What about a bag of bees? Maybe that would work.
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paulio wrote:
What about a bag of bees? Maybe that would work.

That'll work, Sideways_Jnr swelled up a treat after his run in with a bee this summer.
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paulio wrote:
He's only 2.


you are putting him into plastic ski boots, which are too long, into releasable bindings?

if you go to technique extreme in Chamonix they sell adjutable kids boots

http://www.technique-extreme.com/produit-Chaussure-de-ski-enfant-reglable-237.htm


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davidof wrote:
paulio wrote:
He's only 2.


you are putting him into plastic ski boots, which are too long, into releasable bindings?


I put my own feet into plastic ski boots which are too long, into releasable bindings.

What's good for the gander...
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paulio, shame you've just missed the Decathlon "troc" - always loads of kids boots, molto cheapo.
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hmmm I've a feeling you are trolling
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Asking a question about ski boots in the equipment section of a skiing forum is 'trolling' nowadays is it? Well I never.
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paulio, you could always try squeezing marshmallows down inside the boot. then when the wee one gets hungry, he can just have a nibble from the boot? snowHead
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No but you ask a question then follow up with some flippant remarks then wonder why you don't get any sensible answers.
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At which point have I wondered why I'm not getting any sensible answers? There have been several.
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simply put the chap into the boots, pour in some jelly, and let it set - cheap way to get a fully customised liner.

Or hire some ones that fit in resort???
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Some great ideas here.

I'm not sure you need a performance fit at 2 yo.
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maybe not a "performance fit that it needed", but a little security to avoid injury...or am i being old fashioned here
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why is that old fashioned? Puzzled
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davidof wrote:
paulio wrote:
He's only 2.


you are putting him into plastic ski boots, which are too long, into releasable bindings?

if you go to technique extreme in Chamonix they sell adjutable kids boots

http://www.technique-extreme.com/produit-Chaussure-de-ski-enfant-reglable-237.htm


They look like the ones I've just bought my daughter and the smallest setting of the smallest size of these is just perfect for her 7 year old feet so maybe even bigger than the boots we started out discussing!
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There are much smaller Roces adjustable boots than that.

http://www.roces-snow.com/en/size.asp

We put youngest in the smallest set on the smallest size (16.0) when he was 2. Now he is 4 we've had to extend them once, and they'll last him at least another year. For a kids boot, they are very well made.
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Ahh yes, Chloe's Roxas are 18.5-22 which is the smallest they do
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maybe not a "performance fit that it needed", but a little security to avoid injury...or am i being old fashioned here


Yep, that's what I'm hoping to achieve. Bit of ballast.
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