 Poster: A snowHead
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eng_ch, Which is larger a smidge or a whisker? 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Agreed down in Villaroger things can get a bit dodgy towards the end..... |
They've put in a load more snow cannons this year......can't have the imminent future development of Villaroger having muddy pistes, can we?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The Mayrhofen run from the top of the Ahorn all the way down into the village is a lovely run; almost 1500m vertical descent and some stunning views on the way down over the town and down the valley. A proper thigh burner, rewarded by a cold beer in the umbrella bar at the bottom.
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The Les Arcs run to Villaroger is only 7 km long despite 2026 metres in vertical drop which indicates why it is such a good run, especially if you take the steeper options - it isn't just a scenic wander (though it is scenic). Some of the off-piste ways down to Villaroger from the same start (off the back of the mountain) are extremely challenging - some too challenging for me!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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just a scenic wander (though it is scenic).
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last time I did that run the scenary was, well, not visible at all, thick fog/mist or cloud till about the last 200 metres meant I could only just see 10 feet in front. On the upside I still enjoyed the run down and lunch avec vin rouge was pretty darned good also.
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| Markymark29 wrote: |
My favourites:-
1. Top of Schindlergratbahn down to Stuben (Arlberg) |
Done that a few times without any stops, any idea how long it is? Certainly a fun run and a decent gradient with some side stuff to pop into if conditons merit 
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One of my favorits if the snow allowed it is from Pointe de Bouchet 3420m with a little travers down to the highroad near Orelle I think 900m, thats make a verticaldrop of 2520m,, the distance in km is not not important for me,,,
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Cascades in the GM 14km from top of Flaine down to Sixt, 1800m vertical. Doesn't get beyond blue, some polling.
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The best combo in my opinion is Tete de Veret down into the Gers bowl, lunch in the Gite de Gers (though I doubt it’s only 14 euro for three courses still) then down Cascades to the bottom.
The only drawback of the above is you ski into the gite and don’t get to use the comedy piste phone and the subsequent tow behind the skidoo.
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Surely the longest run is just the distance you can ski on a pisted run from one high point until you stop going downhill. Which would make the ski from the Klein Matterhorn down to Vallorcine below Cervinia the longest continuous downhill ski in the world at about 21 - 22 kilometres.
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Tue 1-11-11 19:59; edited 1 time in total
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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stanton, nice olde skool legs locked together in that first vid and from presumably someone in the local ski school...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Longest run possible, although very off piste and rarely in condition that I know of is Mont Blanc Summit to Le Fayet 4807m to 580m a drop of some 4200m!
It does get skied from time to time
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| milestaylor wrote: |
| Surely the longest run is just the distance you can ski on a pisted run from one high point until you stop going downhill. Which would make the ski from the Klein Matterhorn down to Vallorcine below Cervinia the longest continuous downhill ski in the world at about 21 - 22 kilometres. |
But it's not continuous, there is a short chair, can't remember the name but it's marked 'g' on the pistemap, which you need to get up to Col inf. Cime Bianche. Otherwise I'm sure it would be.
If it was on the other side of the border the Swiss would probably just build a tunnel to make it possible 
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You know it makes sense.
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Sorry stoat of the dead, even if you skip the bottom 200 meters because of poor conditions, dropping from the top of Aiguille Rouge is very good on piste and one of my all time favorite off piste.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Colin B wrote: |
| I thought the run from the top at Cervinia down to Valtournenche was 22km, or isn't it classified as one run? It must have a drop of well over 2000m too. It doesn't half blow the cobwebs away first thing in the morning. Last time I was in Zermatt I got the first lift up and after skiing down from the top I was having coffee in Valtournenche by 10. |
Yes, this is the longest I've done, I'm not sure how it is classified...but what a run - esp the final third or so through the trees before it flattens out.
Also big thumbs up to that one from the top of 2 alpes - love that, loving your style Colin, both awesome long linked runs.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| leedssteve wrote: |
| Colin B wrote: |
| I thought the run from the top at Cervinia down to Valtournenche was 22km, or isn't it classified as one run? It must have a drop of well over 2000m too. It doesn't half blow the cobwebs away first thing in the morning. Last time I was in Zermatt I got the first lift up and after skiing down from the top I was having coffee in Valtournenche by 10. |
Yes, this is the longest I've done, I'm not sure how it is classified...but what a run - esp the final third or so through the trees before it flattens out.
Also big thumbs up to that one from the top of 2 alpes - love that, loving your style Colin, both awesome long linked runs. |
The Valtourneche run is the longest I've done, loved the section with the blind rollovers and as you say the bottom area through the trees. I was there in the mid 90's and remember the only downside was the seemingly endless bubblecar ride back.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Most vert. possible is just under 5.5km. Its in Alaska - Mont Saint Elias, its possible to ski the summit to sea level.
A couple of gents say they have done it but not all in one run 
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from the Klein Matterhorn down to Vallorcine
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Wow - From Zermatt all the way to Vallorcine (near Chamonix) - that would be a hell of a run !
Isn't it called the Haut Route
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The Valtourneche run is the longest I've done
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Me too, I think. 2300m top to bottom and sticking to the right (as you look at the map) the whole way.
Stopped twice on the way down as the views were fantastic. The moguls on the last bit less so...
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stanton, nice olde skool legs locked together in that first vid and from presumably someone in the local ski school...
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as my brother in law who can ski anything with absolute perfect style, technique and grace says when people ask him why does he ski with his boots touching......
"because i can"
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Great forum question this ..........
My 5 favourite long runs are :
1. Les Arcs, Aiguille Rouge to Villaroger 20k
2. Cervinia top to Valtournanche 25k
3. Bad Hofgastein top down Kleine Scharte to base station 12k ish
4. Stubai top down Wilde Gruben to Valley Station 19k - superb at end of a long sunny day, ends at the bar !
5. Top Bellecote Glacier ( La Plagne ) down towards Montchavin ?k
My distances are approx ,see piste maps.
All immensely enjoyable runs for intermediate cruising......! 
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kitenski, Not locked together at all. Don't be misled by the effortless of his skiing, he is cruising the whole way, doing a guided tour. Very elegant and controlled the whole time. But each leg working independently and carving where he needed to with little or no effort. Not in the least bit "old school"!
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Samerberg Sue, Really, plenty of shots with zero daylight between the legs!!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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kitenski, don't get bogged down with a particular "school" or style. He is a superb skier, we only see him taking things easy.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I have no doubt he is a good skier!!
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As a single black run, the Sache in Tignes, though not as long as Alpe d'Huez's Sarenne, is an excellent run all the way down.
Although technically comprised of a number of different pistes, I really like going from the Saulire, up above Courchevel, all the way down to Le Praz in one go. The variety of run and surroundings is incredible, from steep and lunar through gently undulating to urban then tree lined and deserted.
And then there a crepes at the bottom!
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You know it makes sense.
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| immer schuss wrote: |
Great forum question this ..........
5. Top Bellecote Glacier ( La Plagne ) down towards Montchavin ?k
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We did that one 3 or 4 years ago. Had a nip of sloe gin from a stainless steel hip flask before we started. Got the flask out at the end to celebrate and it had collapsed due to the pressure increase! Any idea of the stats of that run?
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Bormio peak to creek longest ski race in the world. 10k 1800 mtrs vertical and st peters wall to make parts of your body twitch.
Cracking good fun, last years winning time 4.35  .This years race is on 14 jan.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I thought the longest ski race was the Weisse Ring in Lech/Zurs? I know it's not one run, but it's still a race, think it's the second weekend in Jan or thereabouts.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| sequoiaboard wrote: |
| immer schuss wrote: |
Great forum question this ..........
5. Top Bellecote Glacier ( La Plagne ) down towards Montchavin ?k
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We did that one 3 or 4 years ago. Had a nip of sloe gin from a stainless steel hip flask before we started. Got the flask out at the end to celebrate and it had collapsed due to the pressure increase! Any idea of the stats of that run? |
Montchavin is 1250m IIRC and the top lift is 3250m, so that's a 2k descent - pretty impressive.
Wasn't really skiable for that much of last season though... I remember going down in January and it was like skiing through a field at the bottom.
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Or offpiste the same vertical descent on the North face - but much steeper. (Lots of different ways down - I've only done 3 of them)
(this is Cairn - after the steepest part. We are aiming for the road, just before the trees.)
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I went to GM in early March and skied Cascades in glorious sun on perfect snow the whole way down (topped up a little with guns on the final switchbacks) and it was pretty lovely. I lost our water bottle on the DMC up I think, so the two of us were dangerously dehydrated by the bottom but still enjoyed it
However, we went back in January the next season and it hadn't opened yet. From scouring some blogs I think I eventually deduced it usually opens from the end of January to mid March
As far as longest pistes by classification
Overall longest (and longest rated black) in the Alps: Sarenne, Alpe D'Huez - 16km
Longest Red: ?
Longest Blue: Cascades, Grand Massif - 14km
Longest Green: ?
Anyone care to fill in the blanks for a fully concise answer?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hmm. There's a long green run from Les Saisies to Crest Voland, extremely beautiful through the forest. I didn't know how long it was, but according to a website called "Escapade France" it's 12 kms.
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| la piste forestière du chemin de la Palette s’étirant sur 12 Km de Bissane à Crest-Voland. |
There are no doubt longer green runs elsewhere, though probably not more beautiful ones. Through the forest, with lovely glimpses of the Aravis. The snow is usually good. The last bit can get a bit rocky but I read recently that it's going to have a new cannon, on the section which gets a bit stoney.
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Many decades ago my Father skied the Aletsch Glacier, in those days you got the first train up to Jungfraujoch (3450M) then skied the whole length of the Glacier, it's shrunk a bit now but is still over 23km in length In those days I think they took a route that came out at Blatten from where they would get transport back arriving on the last train of the day back at the resort, these days it would be a lot easier and faster to take a quick helicopter trip.
For a pisted run the path from Piz Gloria (above Murren) to Lauterbrunnen is 15.8 km in length dropping from 2971M to 796M or just over 7000 ft of vertical, this is the longest race track in the ski world! As the annual Inferno run takes place along it, due to the number of entries the Inferno also is the largest amateur ski race in the world.
The area has a surprisingly large number of long pisted runs with many red and blue runs of 7km or more, and of course it also has the longest FIS race the Lauberhorn with a length of 4430M and a vertical drop around 1025 M Course record is I believe 2 mins 24.23 secs average speed to achieve that 66mph
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snebbit, The vert green run in Val that goes down to La Daille must be a contender. Crap run at the bottom though.
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