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New Board - Needs waxing or not?

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Hi all,

1st post so please be gentle.

I'm a skier & have a nice pair of Atomic skis that I keep waxed & edged with regular servicing & I understand the difference that makes, however my 15 yr Old son is in to the snowboard lark. To help him with we decided to get him a board so he would have the same set up etc. He has used the board a couple of times at Chill Factore & Xscape.

We usually have a indoor ski/snowboard evening every 2 weeks and have a week in the Alps in January coming up. My question (finally) is would you suggest we wax the board? If so professionally / home waxing?

Many thanks

Shakey
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shakeywith, Welcome to Snowheads, boards are much the same as skis in that the factory wax is OK but does not last as long as a really good hot wax and maybe also a Hot Box to really get the wax working for longer.

http://www.jonsskituning.co.uk is the guy a lot of Snowheads use, however you may have someone closer to you.
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Home wax, possibly reasonably regularly as indoor snow is quite abrasive (says he who hasn't waxed his indoor skis in almost 2 years rolling eyes )
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Welcome to Snowheads shakeywith, Theres a good guide to waxing boards at home here in the snowboarding section of the forum.
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=44438
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Snowdome snow is very abrasive, even 'normal' wax doesn't last long on it; pick up some Data Polar X Wax (but scrape before it cools) for skiing there.
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shakeywith, Wax for sure- at home.
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narc wrote:
Snowdome snow is very abrasive, even 'normal' wax doesn't last long on it; pick up some Data Polar X Wax (but scrape before it cools) for skiing there.

Wise words Cool
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Use a decent hydrocarbon wax in the first instance, I would avoid cheaper flouro's directly on new bases as they tend to dry out very quickly!
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My new Burton ran well for two weeks before it started to look dry. Domes are very abrasive on the base.

Best waxing (other than your own) is done in the resort where they will match the temperature to the wax they apply.
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spyderjon, narc, if you scrape before it cools does it not strip off all the wax? I thought this was a way of 'cleaning' the base as an alternative to using a base cleaner.

(genuine curiosity - not disagreeing in any way)
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Thanks for the replies. My son fancies doing his own waxing & watching the videos on youtube make us think it should be manageable.
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it can easily be done at home... though i tend to do mine in the garage/ garden as scraping off the wax can be a total mess. I use my ironing board (with an old cover over the top) for support for my board.
Some boards do come pre-waxed by the factory but like many have said the indoor slopes do take it out on the bases a bit
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rogg wrote:
spyderjon, narc, if you scrape before it cools does it not strip off all the wax? I thought this was a way of 'cleaning' the base as an alternative to using a base cleaner.

(genuine curiosity - not disagreeing in any way)


I'm no wax expert but there is a balance with polarX because if it 'sets' it is like welded steel to get off (you only do this once....). It is odd stuff (and oddly brittle) but perhaps it works slightly differently.
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rogg wrote:
spyderjon, narc, if you scrape before it cools does it not strip off all the wax? I thought this was a way of 'cleaning' the base as an alternative to using a base cleaner.

(genuine curiosity - not disagreeing in any way)


I'm no wax expert but there is a balance with polarX because if it 'sets' it is like welded steel to get off (you only do this once....). It is odd stuff (and oddly brittle) but perhaps it works slightly differently.


rogg, narc is right, there is a balance with polar x, and you are right also but hot scrape cleaning Imv is scraping immediately after ironing-not really giving the wax chance to cool, but with polar x and other hard waxes you want to scrape while the bases are still warm, lots of light passes rather than one or two heavy ones, if you let the bases go cold as you would with softer waxes you'll end up either spending ages scraping or if you haven't heated the wax in sufficiently it'll all scrape off like loose flakes of paint!
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