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Reading through some of the stuff on this ready for my daughter for next year. recommendation is for "All Mountain Skis" and "Not Twin Tips". My daughter currently only has twin tips which are probably getting a bit short for her anyway. I'll try to get them soon so she can use them skiing this winter before her course next summer. She'll need something about 155cm I guess. Any recommendations?
I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't find anything ploughing through searches.
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| Colin B wrote: |
| Reading through some of the stuff on this ready for my daughter for next year. recommendation is for "All Mountain Skis" and "Not Twin Tips". |
My recommendation would be for a ski which will perform well on piste and not too fat. For people who are doing the L1 indoors I think something like a slalom ski is perfect. For an L1 outdoors a slalom ski would be OK, or something which is a bit wider. For all the BASI courses I've done (except for the off-piste mountain safety) I've used skis with a turn radius of around 15-17m, 78mm underfoot (and regular width tip and tails) and reasonable stiff. Most other candidates on the courses with me have been on similar skis, and the same for the Trainers who are running the courses.
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Colin B, would echo rob@rar's info. Indoors, definitely a proper piste ski (close to slalom ski width underfoot and radius) and outdoors nothing wider than a modern piste orientated ski (say <80mm and <17m).
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Thanks both, she's probably going to do it at Hintertux so I'll look out for something appropriate. Her twin tips (Dynastar She's Trouble) are 112/78/102 (I purposely didn't get anything too wide or soft) so they probably won't be too different. She won't be skiing until the Easter holidays this year so it gives me plenty of time.
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head magnums
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Colin B, If she can ski to the level......twin tips will be fine, although it might be suggested to her to use 'noramal' skis like everyone else. I passed my grade 3 (in BASI old money) and all of the ISIA modules, apart from the race coach, on Dynastar Trouble Makers!
Saying that, you don't want to be the odd one out on the course sometimes, and for that reason I would second skimottaret in saying Head Magnums. Just make sure she feels comfortable on them first!
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IMO something that is piste'y would be best - a good skier can make a higher performance piste ski do anything therefore on the course you are better with a piste ski - need not be top of the range slalom ski or anything though. In my experience many people struggle to get the performance from a twin tip ski... tails washing out, problems tilting the skis over enough. At the end of the day you are not going to be going freestyle or off-piste wise on the L1.
Good luck.
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Colin B, I would also think that the Magnum is a good ski for the first few BASI courses at least. Skis everywhere well, easy to ski, fun and forgiving. I have the 2010/11 model in the 163. I really like the ski and can recommend it. Although the only downside for me is it doesn't have the performance I want at L4 for longs. Please feel free to PM me if you have any further questions.
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Thanks, the Magnums are expensive aren't they. I don't think I'll be spending that much, she won't get enough use from them and she's also growing still. She's 16 in January and 5'5"/160cm but very slight, I'm sure she'll fill out over the next couple of years and will probably need to change again. I was thinking something about 155cm would be right.
I've seen a couple of good deals which would probably be suitable (any views?). They would have to pass the colour test too though.
Volkl Tigershark 8
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Core: XTD Woodcore
Technology: Double Power Grip XTD Powered by Titanium
Radius: 15.0 m (168cm)
Sidecut: 116-70-100 (168cm)
Volkl Crosstiger Steel 115-69-100
Powerful premium carver with agile ski flex for highly athletic skiers.
A powerful carver for athletic ski aces with a dynamic skiing style. The new ski owes its name to a band of special spring steel integrated into the ski's structure for increased agility. The Power Grip profile provides effortless but perfect edge pressure. The 3Motion binding system is perfectly tuned to fit the ski. Together, they provide a highly harmonious ski flex to make the carving fun perfect.
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• Core: Full Sensor Woodcore
• Technology: Power Grip Powered by Steel
• Binding: 3Motion 11.0 TC
Sidecut: 115-69-100
Radius:
12.4m@154cm
13,8m@161cm
15.2m@168cm
16.8m@175cm
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or even Crosstiger Carbon
High-performance ski with superior skiing performance for quick carving on the slopes Is speed carving your thing? Here is your ski: the CROSSTIGER CARBON. A powerful, high-performance ski with superior edge grip. Its finely tuned skiing performance comes courtesy of its high-tech construction, with XTD Sensor Woodcore and Double Grip XTD. The wood core contains thin inserts of titanium and carbon to provide an extremely quiet, controlled ride, even on hard, ribbed slopes.
Sidecut: 116-70-101
Radius: 14,8m @ 168cm
all 10/11 models
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Colin B, any of those would be suitable.
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IMV, just about any ski will do for L1 provided it's not too extreme. I think the tutors are pretty forgiving. They must be - I managed to pass on park skis mounted with touring bindings!
L2 is a different game and I'd suggest that something very piste-orientated (eg GS) combined with stiff boots are required.
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You know it makes sense.
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| kitenski wrote: |
| I got some Storm Inferno's for my BASI L1 |
Got the same for Mounta1nGoat to take his L1 on rather than his usual Suspects.
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Fantastic prices kitenski.
Colin B - the 151 Infernos would probably be superb.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Thanks I saw those too when they were first posted. I'll talk to her about it and make our mind up.
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Just got a pair of Storm Rages from the ebayer kitenski, mentions, ordered late Tues evening, here today, still shrink wrapped and in perfect condition. Just need to get them them over to Ilkeston so Storm can fit some bindings for me! Have some Storm Cyclones as well and they are cracking good skis.
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L2 is a different game and I'd suggest that something very piste-orientated (eg GS) combined with stiff boots are required.
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Only if you're a very strong skier. If you're only just at L2 standard I think you may struggle in stiff boots.
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What bindings have you guys put on those Infernos?
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storm branded vist
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anarchicsaltire, Thanks, they must have cost more than the skis! If you got a good deal could you share please.
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| Colin B wrote: |
| anarchicsaltire, Thanks, they must have cost more than the skis! If you got a good deal could you share please. |
Skis with bindings fitted £210, sadly the deal is no longer available or I would be tempted to get another pair for myself!
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Getting some Storm Vists for the Rages (Storm only just over the hill from me so they are supplying and fitting them) have got some cheapo Tyrolia SL100 on the Cyclones, do the job but nothing special
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anarchicsaltire, Thanks, at that price I'd go for that. One of the other deals I'm looking at, with bindings, is probably comparable once bindings, fittings, etc are taken into account. However as she's a 15 year old girl colour will probably be the deciding factor 
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I would agree with rob@rar about a slalom ski and if red is her favourite colour a pair of clapped out 150/155 Salomon 10 3V (yellow race flash best) which can know be picked up with bindings @£50 would be a good choice; they are so versatile anything from very hard piste to top of the boot powder and turn like a top, just right for demos and a ski you can forget about when leading groups, it will do the same thing every time, just what you put into it. Nobody is going to steal it, bases last forever sharpen em up and smile for less than the price of a day ticket in a snowdome near you.
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