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Hi, can anyone suggest a jacket and salopettes, that are waterproof and breathable and do not cost stupid prices. I dont want to pay North Face or Killy prices.

Looking at spending around £150-£200 max.

I am sick of getting a wet bum on ski lifts Very Happy

Reason my budget is limited is that myself and Mrs Baggins started a diet and have now lost nearly ten stone between us, Mrs B has lost 5 and a half stone and i have lost just over 4 stone. I have gone from a rather porky 41 inch waist to a svelt 33-34 inch and Mrs B has now got into size 10 jeans after being 18-20 Shocked . I almost fancy my own wife Laughing Laughing

Therefore we are having to buy complete new wardrobes for skiing and our other hobbies, so this diet lark has cost us a fortune, almost makes me want to start eating pies again.

Please dont suggest TK Max!!!!!
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Timbobaggins, honestly keeping an eye on TK Max, or NF outlet stores in Bicester, other online outlet stores, last years stock in your local ski shop are going to be your best bet..... The 'high end' kit that has Goretex and is both waterproof and breathable costs £££££
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honestly keeping an eye on TK Max, or NF outlet stores in Bicester, other online outlet stores, last years stock in your local ski shop are going to be your best bet.....

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have a look at Decathlon, too - great big one at Surrey Quays.
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"Breathable" -

Look for clothes with lots of zip up vents. No fancy fabric (good as it may be) beats vents for keeping you comfortably cool.
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Turns'n'turns wrote:
"Breathable" -

Look for clothes with lots of zip up vents. No fancy fabric (good as it may be) beats vents for keeping you comfortably cool.


Trouble is vents let snow and rain in,,,which fancy fabrics don't!!
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Timbobaggins, Sounds like a tight budget for anything half decent, like above best bet is Decathlon or TK's, not the best time of year to be getting bargains on ski gear, that's summer. Can you borrow and go for TNF or similar when at target weight, there's a shop in Otley called Glide and Slide that hire out gear I believe, worth a call, they specialise in school trips and may have some suitable gear?
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Another, completely different, solution might be to rent gear for this next holiday. Who knows, you might have regained all that weight again by the following holiday. Twisted Evil Or become even thinner.
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Hard to beat price for the spec, unless you're a label whore

http://www.dare2b.com/buy/club-ski-pant-ii-158351
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Thanks all, Pam i lost the weight between November 2010 and May 2011, have held my target weight of 13 stone 7lb since May. Do NOT ever want to get back to that size again.

Looks like i will have to spend more or dare i say keep an eye out for 2nd hand on fleabay Embarassed Embarassed
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kitenski wrote:
Turns'n'turns wrote:
"Breathable" -

Look for clothes with lots of zip up vents. No fancy fabric (good as it may be) beats vents for keeping you comfortably cool.


Trouble is vents let snow and rain in,,,which fancy fabrics don't!!


Never happened to me... I would often ski with trouser vents fully open (I mean the vents along the legs - the important one at the front stays closed wink ) and haven't had snow getting in.

I can see how that may happen in deep pow..
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Timbobaggins, quality effort on the weight loss Cool
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Timbobaggins, quality effort on the weight loss Cool
+1. How did you do it?
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Myself and Mrs Baggins started the Tony Ferguson diet ( available through Boots the Chemist ) on 15th November 2010. By May 2011 i hab gone from 17 stone 9lb to 13 stone 5lb. In the same time Mrs B had dropped from 16 stone 4lb to 11 stone dead.

The good thing with the TF diet is that once you read his book ( £10 ) from Boots you realise quite quickly what you can do once you have got to your target weight to hold the weight off.

There are three phases to the diet.
1 Weight Loss
2 Maintenance
3 Freedom

I am half way between phase 2 and 3.

We followed it strictly at phase 1 which included 3 glasses of wine a week Very Happy but we actually cut out all booze for the first eight to ten weeks, which meant a dry Christmas and New Year Crying or Very sad

So our treat was that our first drink would be our First night skiing on our first trip of 2011 which was at the end of Jan 2011. A gin and slimline tonic never tasted sooooooooooo good.

My brother in law has now been on it 8 weeks and has done nearly 3 stone and a couple of my mates at work have now started it and have both lost a stone in 5 weeks.
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Ooh yes and it does say expect to put on a few pounds when going from weight loss to Maintenance, i went from 13 5 to 13 7.

Also this weekend we went to British Superbikes at Silverstone for three days and both of us had a bit of a blow out and put on a couple of pounds each, so we just get back on weight loss phase for a week and that seems to shift it.

The good thing is it teaches you to watch your weight, we weigh ourselves every monday morning, if we have upped a couple of pounds we just go hard diet for a week, its easy to keep a couple of pounds off.

Both myself and Mrs B had not dared stand on scales for ages prior to this diet

I looked back through my weight loss diary and i averaged 3lb a week loss
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Timbobaggins wrote:
Please dont suggest TK Max!!!!!


Why the hell not?

I've got about 700 quid's worth of top-end Halti gear, that cost me about 120 quid in TK Maxx.

At your budget, if you poke your nose in the air and steadfastly avoid TK Maxx, you'll be 200 quid down and sat in some dowdy leaky ill-fitting bin-bag resembling Protest or Trespass shite. Or you can scum it with the proles for 15 minutes in TK Maxx and have some totally decent Helly/Orage/ACG gear or whatever. Your call mate, but, y'know.
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paulio,

I am quite happy to scum it ( your phrase ) in TK Max, in fact as we have had to buy new clothes as the diet kicked in we got jeans and shirts from TK Max. I will be looking in there, i just asked for it not to be included as i knew it would Puzzled Puzzled
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Timbobaggins,
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I am sick of getting a wet bum on ski lifts


the stuff we do is a little wink more than your budget.

Its always worth paying more for pants, IMHO they tend to get much more abuse than jackets in terms of snow contact. Its strange really as I reckon a very high percentage of skiers always pay more for their jackets than their pants Puzzled
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TNF outlet in Bicester had some good Goretex salopettes the last week.
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Timbobaggins, can't help you with any clothing but well done that's great commitment.
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Its always worth paying more for pants

Not a bad idea. My OH has a pair of excellent pants bought for £75 in T K Maxx 5 years ago. They've done 5 seasons, they look very good, they are waterproof and breathable. I think they're Rossignol. I've also spent several comfortable seasons in a "Trespass shite" jacket (£50 in TKMaxx) with no complaints. My current jacket (Head) was 65% off in a Filarinskis sale.

My current pants are Colombia - not exactly a top name, but they've been good. I must have done about 26 solid weeks of skiing in them. They were £10 ex-hire (practically as good as new) in Filarinskis.

People who bootpack up mountains and spend nights in a bivvy on a ledge on the North Face of the Eiger need top notch gear. Most of us, frankly, don't. The better specified ranges in Decathlon are perfectly fine.

Of course, if it turns you on to have big name gear, and money is no object, then it's a nice buy and is good for the economy. And maybe somebody will think you do bootpack up mountains. But I prefer to spend any spare money on lessons - and the odd nice lunch!!
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pam w wrote:
People who bootpack up mountains and spend nights in a bivvy on a ledge on the North Face of the Eiger need top notch gear. Most of us, frankly, don't.


or folk who will ski in rain 'cos it's snowing at the top....or forecast to turn to snow..............rain really tests your waterproofness!!
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rain really tests your waterproofness!!

indeed, but waterproof isn't too difficult and really doesn't have to cost £600.
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Timbobaggins, nice one on the diet. I have also had good deals a tk maxx but they seem to be fewer and further between, anyhow how come your budget is so tight, you deserve a reward and you should have saved loads on booze and food. wink
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dont rule out sportdirect - which seems to be cornering the old C&A value market quite well
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If you are really on tight budget you could do worse than wait to see what Aldi/Lidl come up with this year, £50 or £60 spent there will get you gear that is easily a match in terms of quality for £150 to £200 spent somewhere a bit more mainstream and their gear seems to get better every season.
Other places to take a look http://www.mandmdirect.com and http://www.skiwear4less.com/
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pam w wrote:
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rain really tests your waterproofness!!

indeed, but waterproof isn't too difficult and really doesn't have to cost £600.


Can't see id ever pay that, half price £300 jacket seems expensive, £600 seems extortionate!
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On the cheap kit front, if you happen to be anywhere near a Ski Show it might be worth sticking your head in (assuming you can find a free ticket somewhere) as S&R (and maybe EB) often have a 'clearout' rail on their stalls that sells off their remaining old stock. I picked up some Goretex trousers for £100 that are holding up fine so far. I think it's pretty hit and miss though, so I reckon TK Maxx and Decathlon are better bets overall.

Good work on the weight loss though!
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kitenski wrote:
pam w wrote:
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rain really tests your waterproofness!!

indeed, but waterproof isn't too difficult and really doesn't have to cost £600.


Can't see id ever pay that, half price £300 jacket seems expensive, £600 seems extortionate!


I honestly wonder who ever pays full price for Sweet/Norrona/Haglofs/etc, there are always so many jackets and salopettes in >half price sales every summer - like the oh so tempting Sweet one atm.
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I'd also say, look at the ski shows - especially any that are not at Olympia, if such things exist. What I mean is, the ski shows that look like a giant jumble sale. I got a superb pair of Columbia trousers for around £90, down from at least double that, some years ago at the Manchester Ski Show - near top end, Goretex and very warm except when the vents are undone. Trouble is, I'll soon need your diet to get into them!
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Marmot Precip wink
Probably the best quality / performing budget water proof gear that I know of. RRP is about 70 notes, but you can get jackets and trousers in online sales for circa 40. Very waterproof - For the money its fantastic kit, good range of colours and a nice cut. Sprayway also make some fantastic non gore-tex jackets as well.

FWIW I also own a much more expensive gore-tex jacket - but would happily ski in the cheaper 'marmot precip' gear (that I use for summer hillwalking etc).
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Cheers all, food for thought, cept i cant eat food Laughing Laughing
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Excellent work on the diet even if it is a tad costly replacing everything. Mind you, I'd still rather be thin and poor Wink Our slightly (OK, very) sad trick with TK is to check lots of different stores. We managed to get £500 Patagonia down jackets a couple of years ago for £120 each and they're fab! His has orange trim and mine blue so we look like right t**s*rs in our matching gear but who cares. Was in there last week and noticed they've got a few Tommy Hillfiger jackets in - Goretex no less - they were also around £120.

I'm sure you know but in case not, there's a discount Snow & Rock near the Milton K's snow centre although it's a bit hit and miss what they have in there. Speaking of S&R, the shops still have some of last season's stuff marked down too - I got an Arcteryx mid-layer 60% off! Love a bargain.

If things get desperate there's always Ebay or Surfanic............ No-one will recognise you when you've got your goggles on after all wink

Have a great trip Smile
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Timbobaggins, damn, if you hadn't lost so much weight, I'd happily have sold you a 3-week worn Degre7 jacket for about £80 (£190 new) that is now too large for me having also lost weight.... Laughing
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paulio wrote:
Timbobaggins wrote:
Please dont suggest TK Max!!!!!


Why the hell not?

I've got about 700 quid's worth of top-end Halti gear, that cost me about 120 quid in TK Maxx.

At your budget, if you poke your nose in the air and steadfastly avoid TK Maxx, you'll be 200 quid down and sat in some dowdy leaky ill-fitting bin-bag resembling Protest or Trespass shite. Or you can scum it with the proles for 15 minutes in TK Maxx and have some totally decent Helly/Orage/ACG gear or whatever. Your call mate, but, y'know.


Well it's very time consuming (repeatly visiting multiple stores) and if it's a repeat of last year they (in the main) only had Trespass, Protest and Dare2B stuff at prices you get online.
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I can recommend Tog 24 for quality clothing. I have a jacket and salopettes from them and they are both comfortable and great quality. They have an online outlet shop worth checking out...

Cheap:
http://www.estore.tog24.com/

Even Cheaper...
http://www.estore.tog24.com/outlet-online.html
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You could try ebay
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