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After 25 years of knee pain, which has had a marked deterioration in the past 9 months, I have decided to consider my future options.
Have any Snowheads recommendations for a good/sympathetic ortho surgeon who understands needs of aging active people who ski, run, bike, climb etc. Ideally. based in Yorkshire.
I know you cannot turn back time, I have an active 54 years already, and I intend to be active for at least 30 more. Be very interested in other's experience(s).
Thanks 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Know of a good one in Bath, obviously too far but thought I would respond just in case. Sorted out my daughters knee and came highly recommended, understand he has done some pro rugby players too.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ian Kenvyn, when I had knee problems many years ago, I was recommended an orthopaedic surgeon (in London). When I got there, and he saw my x-rays, he said that he was a specialist in bones, and would recommend me to someone else who specialised in soft tissue problems, since it was indeed a soft tissue problem, the x-rays were clear. I was a bit amazed at this, don't know if such super-specialisation is common nowadays. Might be better, perhaps, if your GP could organise x-rays/scans first, and then take it from there?
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Ian Kenvyn, There is a good orthopaedic department at Sheffield Hallam I think.
Try looking here for recommendations:
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEnotes/node/396
All the surgeons listed there are all peer recommended, they do not pay to be listed. The owner of the site is a doctor and reviews all the recommendations.
Sue 
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I used Stuart Calder from here, who actually didn't go into my knee and suggested physio which touch wood has worked
yorkshireorthopaedics.co.uk/index.php
Anyone remember who did Michael vaughans knee??
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Ian Kenvyn, your first port of call should probably be a rheumatologist (musculoskeletal specialist), who will then recommend a suitable surgeon based on whether it's bone, soft tissue or nerve damage.
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kitenski, I've heard excellent reports about Stuart Calder as well. He is highly regarded in the UK Knee surgeon circles.
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Stuart bikes & skis ( I think)
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ian, i have some knee issues, and have various ops to sort them out. they are never as good as before for movement range and please dont take this the wrong way are you sure you want the "surgeons knife" (includes a tidy up within the knee) as it is never the same - just weighing up age versus net result! i am unsure of your problems, if possible i would recommend building up muscle to hold it all together and yes there maybe pain but you can always take painkillers (whether that is right or wrong) as any trauma to your knee will, in my opinion and experience, will have some downsides. feel free to send a PM. cheers
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Thanks SnowHeads - great feedback (as usual). Food for thought and some interesting avenues to be explored. Best wishes, Ian.
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He is in London but Dr Jonathan Bell in Wimbledon, not only is he a top knee surgeon who has looked after top skiers but a mad keen skier himself.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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roche1800, wise words indeed. 
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Ian Kenvyn, I tore my cruciate in 1981, again in 1986 and it's been prone to problems since. Best person is UK is Sir George Bentley at Royal Orth. He's seen me and my friends, and done brilliant work, including - 'just keep skiing and climbing. I'm not doing any surgery on it...'. Brilliant clinicial and invented first artifiical knee joint and cartilage implant therapy. Private, but can get NHS referral. I did private diagnosis and then back into NHS for treatment - which is very efficient for the NHS, and good for me, since I get the best where it counts ie at diagnosis.
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You know it makes sense.
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| valais2 wrote: |
| Ian Kenvyn, 'just keep skiing and climbing. I'm not doing any surgery on it...'. . |
Best advice if at all possible. I had a cartlidge op 3yrs ago, should've left it alone. 
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sunnbuel, thanks for that. i wouldnt reckon on wise - just from my experiences, cheers anyway
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| sunnbuel wrote: |
| roche1800, wise words indeed. |
Agreed.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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valais2, not sure Prof Bentley would claim to have invented the first artificial knee joint, that belongs to others, but he did pioneer Chondrocyte Tansplantation and is well known for it.
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sunnbuel, ...thanks for that...was told by his niece that he did... but having done a search you are right:
Total joint replacement has become a widely accepted treatment for many destructive joint diseases including osteoarthritis, rhematoid arthritis, osteonecrosis and very severe pathologic fractures. Of total joint replacments, the two most commonly replaced joints and most successfully replaced joints are the knee and the hip. Sir John Charnely, a British Orthopaedic surgeon who was knighted for his development of joint replacements, developed the fundamental principles of the artificial hip and designed a a hip in the mid and late 1960's that still sees widespread use today. Frank Gunston developed one of the first artificial knee joints in 1969. Since then, joint replacement surgery has become one of the most successful orthopaedic treatements. The number of hip replacements done in the world per year numbers between 500,000 and 1 million. The total number of knee replacements done in the world per year is less, but probably still numbers between 250,000 and 500,000. Of all the factors leading to total hip replacement, osteoarthritis or OA, is the most common, accounting for 65% of all total hips.
...so...many thanks...good to know...tim
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You could try Mr Ganapathi, Ysbyty Gwynedd, Bangor, North Wales.
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If you are based in the South then Mr Bradley and Mr Flannery in Guildford are highly regarded. My wife had knee problems and saw Mt Bradley, had X-ray, MRI and Mr Bradley "laid on hands" and she has not had any problems since! I suspect that is more of a timing/fluke but she had a slight tear in a cartilage and could have had mirco surgery but it seemed to fix itself. Though I have separately heard good things of both surgeons.
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Can only recommend on personal experience but I'm skiing again 9 months after an ACL replacement from Dr Jonathan Lavelle at The Lister, London.
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There is a guy called Charles Willis-Owen out in Kent who is a top knee surgeon and a make keen skier / marathon runner. Nice ot have an expert who understands sport... 
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SteveRichie, you are Charles Willis-Owen and I claim my 5 minute consultation
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| Basil wrote: |
| Know of a good one in Bath, obviously too far but thought I would respond just in case. Sorted out my daughters knee and came highly recommended, understand he has done some pro rugby players too. |
Don't suppose it was Mr Bradbury was it?! Sorted my torn meniscus a few years ago - along way from Yorkshire but I'd also recommend him. Thinking of going back with some repeat business for the other knee now!
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I've used Mr. Elliot in Runneymede in Surrey twice. Good bloke, top surgeon, and a skier himself. Very much no nonsense. Had an ACL reconstruction and an arthroscopy so far. Doubtless I'll be back!!
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Hi,
Nick London based in Leeds/ Harrogate did my ACL. Very good. He did micheal vaughan's last knee surgery.
Check out yorkshire knee clinic.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Ian Kenvyn, Willem Schenk. Bury St Edmunds (West Suffolk) V'good, a skier and optimises the insert/prosthetic for the usage expected and doesn't just toss in the cheapest.
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Ian Kenvyn, As per the suggestion by a couple of others above, before choosing a surgeon you need a diagnosis on the problem. X-Rays / MRIs would be my first stop.
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You know it makes sense.
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AndAnotherThing.., I think Ian Kenvyn has probably got this sorted out by now. If you look at the date of the first post, it was back in August 2011! The thread was bumped by a possible spammer exactly a year after the last post.
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Samerberg Sue, doh ! Hope you are feeling better..
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ian Kenvyn, There's a great guy in Harrogate called Mr Sefton, he sorted my ACL 15 years ago, he was only in his 30'3 then so I assume he's still practicing.
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Samerberg Sue, AndAnotherThing.., I fell into the trap too!
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Samerberg Sue, Ha, enjoy! 
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Dai Rees in Oswestry.. A very keen ski-ier and well known surgeon
Simon Roberst also in Oswestry, operated on me, as i waited to see him Shaun Right-Phillips walked out his room as i walked in.
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Morning everyone
After a stupid fall two weeks ago and a (with hindsight) dodgy decision to push on and ski the Grand Enver and walk out of the Vallee via the ice steps, I am left with:
Grade 2-3 rupture MCL, broken fibula & strongly suspected grade 2-3 rupture ACL.
I started the process of A&E/fracture clinic in Leeds, so now have a consultant via LGI and will be having an 'urgent' MRI soon.
My question is do I get my GP to switch me to Harrogate and one of either Nick London or Stuart Calder (if they'll take me)? I am sure the guy in Leeds is competent and he is a knee specialist, but, he doesn't seem at all focussed on the fact I work in the sports industry and if anything seems a little dismissive of skiing in general.
Thoughts
kitenski & Markymark29 I've fired you both a PM as I'ld value your thoughts in particular.
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midgetbiker, I know a couple of lads who had great experiences in Harrogate. The pro rugby sides in Yorkshire go there.
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midgetbiker, if you can get Stuart Calder to work on you, you will have one of the best knee surgeons currently working in the UK. Make sure whoever you end up seeing checks out the Postereo-Lateral Corner if you have a fibula fracture anywhere near the head of the fib. Mine was missed completely by a surgeon who was not so experienced and it casued me no end of problems. If the MCL is only a grade 2 it may be left to heal on its own as it is capable due to having a good blood supply compared with other ligaments.
Good luck
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midgetbiker, if you want any more recommendations, it may be worth pm'ing Jonathan Bell, who has put some very helpful knee posts up on here. (He himself is based down south.)
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midgetbiker, I would follow you instincts and as you are having doubts definitely do change your consultant. My knee surgeon (based in Reading) was very good he was also a rugby player and had ruptured his own ACL while playing hockey. He did a fantastic job and fully understood that for me never playing hockey or skiing again was unthinkable. When I tired my meniscus I had moved to different area, I wish I had gone back to my original consultant.
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