Poster: A snowHead
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Don't have this problem when skis are left in the warm ski room overnight and dry off, or if they're left outside overnight in the cold. But if my skis go straight from the snow into a bag the edges are rusty within a couple of hours. I know this is caused by the warm and wet, so I try to dry them thoroughly before putting them in the bag. But however hard you try sometimes you miss a bit, or there's a bit of water in the bag or hiding somewhere on your poles... So frustrating!
Does anyone have any tips to stop this happening!
Thanks.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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A spray on wax like the toko swing wax is very effective, also worth a try would be a very little vegtable or mineral light oil on a cloth just run over the edges, it should provide enough protection for you to get them home and properly dried off
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I think we've covered this before but...
1. Don't leave your skis in the bag.
2. If you're finished skiing for the season, when you put them in for a service, ask them to put a storage wax on them, or just not to scrape the wax off the edges.
(or, is you've already had the wax scraped, then use some vaseline, or similar petroleum based jelly, and rub a little onto the edges)
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rub a candle on the edges (I always take a handful of tea-lights on hol) before you stuff 'em in the bag for the trip back
NB. wear gloves when doing it
for long term storage use www.vp90.com sachet or supershield or as Fox says have them serviced (ask to have the wax cover the side of the edge) and don't scrape.
Though I've found a candle works just as well to stop the rusting
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Wear The Fox Hat,
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use some vaseline, or similar petroleum based jelly, and rub a little onto the edges)
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Fox, I read this year that petroleum based products are bad for the bases, so at the risk of not being absolutely precise with the goo, I've gone over to the wax rub. Apparently the goo soaks into the bases where it touches and stops the next wax being absorbed-allegedly
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snowbunny, that's kinda true, but if you have wax on your bases, then they should be covered. (also, most wax is a petroleum based product!)
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Thanks guys. I do put a storage wax on and cover the edges for long term storage, but that's not when it's a problem. It's more if I've driven to ski somwhere - like the snowdome or glenshee and the have to put them in the bag for the trip home. And will probably want to use them again a week later.
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As I said in the first point, make sure you don't leave them in the bag.
As soon as you get home, take them out, and stand them up against a wall. Turn them upside down the next day. This will mean that any water should have dripped off the bindings as well.
If they are left in a bag for more than a few hours, the moisture will cause the rust to form.
I'd also suggest that if you are carrying your skis inside the car, don't use a bag at all. This will allow the air to circulate aroud them. (If you're worried about seats getting wet, then put an old towel under the skis.)
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Wear The Fox Hat,
Cheers - I'll try that!
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beanie1 wrote: |
Don't have this problem when skis are left in the warm ski room overnight and dry off, or if they're left outside overnight in the cold. But if my skis go straight from the snow into a bag the edges are rusty within a couple of hours. I know this is caused by the warm and wet, so I try to dry them thoroughly before putting them in the bag. But however hard you try sometimes you miss a bit, or there's a bit of water in the bag or hiding somewhere on your poles... So frustrating!
Does anyone have any tips to stop this happening!
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You're wasting your time trying to dry them, there's enough water in frozen form in and around the binding typically rust the edges. It's not going to be a big deal, a slight oxidation on the edge isn't going to do much harm over the life of the ski. A days skiing will do more harm to the edge finish than a slight oxidation. Correct long term storage of skis is always a good idea obviously.
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My ski edges are rusty every time I start a new trip. I dont bother to do anything. a couple of runs and the rust is gone !
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beanie1, newspaper between the skis whilst in the bag sometimes helps
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Always wipe them down thoroughly, separate them, never leave them in the bag unless you're sure they're 100% dry. Not much to add to WTFH's and other comments, except that if they're still wet/snowy when you leave them standing rest them on some newspaper or something, and/or move them an hour later.
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You know it makes sense.
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Correct long term storage of skis is always a good idea obviously.
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Which is how-exactly? Maybe this needs to be a new thread-the definitive way to store skis out of season?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The one time in my life I had to arrange a big display of ski equipment (in the basement of the former Ski Club of GB Clubhouse in Eaton Square) it was done by mounting a 15cm shelf just above the skirting board, with a length of beading along the front edge. About 120cm up the wall there was a horizonal run of timber with pegs plugged into it at equal intervals.
This enables you to run the skis vertically. Obviously if you're going to be storing the skis wet you'd have to use waterproof material as above - ideally aluminium or galvanized. At a guess, suitable metal stuff could be obtained from shopfitting suppliers, or maybe people who supply warehouse storage materials.
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snowbunny, more to the point, most people don't need to store 10 pairs or more. I use those racks because it's a high density racking method, I can get 8 pairs into a small area. Realistcally, storing them horizontally is the best option though. I have those base up because I don't want the weight of the binding to deform the ski and lose its curve/flex.
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Realistcally, storing them horizontally is the best option though.
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I'd challenge that, 100% (no offence intended). Find me a ski shop or rental operation anywhere that stores skis horizontally. Vertical storage has to use wall space more efficiently. If you're concerned about ski warpage (there's a minor risk with a wood core ski) store the skis sole-to-sole with a block of wood at the point of maximum camber, and bind or clamp the tips and tails - that's the age-old method (dating from all-wood skis).
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My ski edges are rusty every time I start a new trip. I dont bother to do anything. a couple of runs and the rust is gone !
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I'm nowhere near an expert in these matters, but I'd tend to agree with the above. When I got my own skis, I panicked when I saw the occasional spot of rust on them, but after a pre-holiday service all rust was completely gone. And I have also found that any slight rust will have gone after a few ski runs, so it doesn't concern me anymore. Having said that, any excuse for a new set of skis....
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Vertical storage has to use wall space more efficiently. |
You're not very spacially aware then. Please never park a car next to mine.
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excellent, I win, I had 20 francs on a pointless "amusing" photo
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Yeah but you got two, so you lose the bet.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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nope, as usual, I'm missing the logic.
But, you're right, I get nothing, turns out it was a sweep and due to an error in organisation no one checked the punts and we all guessed the same.
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Perhaps one of you two ladies could take the time out answer my last question about summer storage
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You know it makes sense.
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You talking to me?
Can't think of anything useful to say, dear. Maybe move to a cooler country?
Skis aren't affected too much by hot and cold - they're pressed at quite high temperatures and used at very low temperatures. I just store them in the loft, with ski ties holding 'em together.
Modern skis are almost entirely synthetic and very resistant to warpage etc.
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nope, as usual, I'm missing the logic.
But, you're right, I get nothing, turns out it was a sweep and due to an error in organisation no one checked the punts and we all guessed the same. |
lost again I think , who had two or three minutes for the "appearing on google news alert to be copied here" ? I had 5 mins, am I the closest?
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Poster: A snowHead
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snowbunny, if you have the space and just one or two pairs of skis, under the bed or on top of the wadrobe would be good locations (so long as your home doesn't have damp, I'd go with the laid flat, bidings open and don't worry too much about binding springs, if they're not under load conditions they should be fine, basically anywhere coolish and dry is fine, just don't seal them in a plastic bag
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Thankyou D G Orf,
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comprex, Incredible, and no, I don't have the space. It seems that ise, has some catching up to do. His own 7 (ish) pairs seem positively conservative when set beside Dana's quiver.
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snowbunny, I said it was conservative, see there's the proof. I've thrown a few pairs out, anything I'm not likely to use has gone basically. I've now only got skis I actually skied on last season, plus a pair of loaners and a pair of X screams I was going to sell.
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snowbunny, I said it was conservative, see there's the proof. I've thrown a few pairs out
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Are you feeling unwell
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snowbunny, Check your bindings handbook, they pretty much all recommend winding off the DIN tension to zero during off season storage. It’ll also give you the correct servicing and calibration intervals (Quite short periods for some makes). They usually state they’re to be kept out of direct sunlight and away from heat and in a dust free, dry environment. I think most ski bags are breathable so when everything’s dry, under the bed or in the loft is as good a place as any
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Masque, Ta. Have been keeping them covered, in a spare bedroom. I'm pretty sure that my binding manual did'nt mention winding off to zero. I will check. The skis have a nice thick coat of wax, but will not go the ski bag route as all our bags are plastic lined. Currently using old bed sheet to cover. I suppose that I could put them in the bed and sleep on the floor
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snowbunny, It might just say 'release the tension' and with the price of some skis that's probably the safest place for them
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