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Salomon Lords or Dynastar Sultan 85

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After having done quite a bit of research can't make my mind up between these two skis. I assume this is the best time of the year to purchase them due to lower prices? There is no point waiting for next years models is there?

This is the first time I will be buying skis. Normally ski piste aspiring torwards a greater extent of off piste and park. I'm relatively short at 175cm (5 foot 9) and light 60 kilos (9 stone).

To factor in has to be the length of the skis as I'm use to 170s and the Dynastars are only available in 172cm and Lords in 169cm and 177cm. Is this a negligable difference in length? Am I right in thinking the 177cms will be too long for my height and weight? Will the 169cm considerably limit speed performance on piste?

I get the impression the Lords are more versatile being better off piste and in the park, is this right due to the twin tips and slightly greater width (87 as opposed to 85)? Which is most likely to be best in hard packed/icy conditions? or once again is it a case of little difference?

Have read that Salomon's previous models have had problems with delaminating. Is this merely cosmetic or has significant side effects?

Both come with bindings and Dyanstar's are £325 compared £395 for the Lords. Wondering why the Sultans are so much cheaper?

Cheers.
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The Sultan's are ace skis, carve really well on piste (good tortional stiffness = good edge hold, fairly stiff flex = stable at speed) - they ski a lot like a fatter gs ski. Better float in powder than you'd think for the width, but where they really excel is variable/cruddy/powdery/dust-on-crusty/even icy bumps - they're really versatile. 172 would be great for you (although you would get used to a few cm's longer). Plus you get the great Dynastar build quality (Salomon don't have the best rep for that, although I have no experience of it). That's a good price too, usually they seem to be circa £500 with bindings.

Lords aren't proper twins, they have a half raised tail (like the Sultan), although as they are softer flexing they may still be better in the park. I haven't skied them myself, but friends who have liked them, although not so much on piste.
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clarky999, Cheers for your reply. The only reason why I'm still considering the Lords is a qoute on an old thread I found:

"I've used both skis in the same sizes and I prefer Salomon Lords (in fact I'm looking for a pair to buy). I'm not a design/industry expert but they just felt more powerful and livelier, along with having better float off-piste."

"The Sultan is smoother and the Lord slightly livelier"

Another question is what ski bag to buy for carraige, will 1 pair of skis and POLES easily fit in a ski bag designed for 1 pair of skis. Sounds like a dim question, but it seems that there are lots more bags for 2 pairs of skis on the market.
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Get the biggest cheapest bag you can find, then stuff all your clothes, boots and ski kit in it. A one pair bag will easily take a pair and poles though.
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I think you have found a very good price for the Sultans. Where is that from? I'd be tempted at that price - maybe worth grouping together to negotiate a bit more?
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I am looking to buy a pair of the Sultans after having tried the Lords.
The Lords, to me, felt to soft and almost floppy. Which is a disappointment as I love my Sally racing skis and most other sallys I have had over the last 30 years.
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i have pair of sultan 85's 09/10 seasons in 184 love them get a pair!! Toofy Grin
Might sell you mine if you make me sensible offer?
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