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I'm thinking about booking with them.
anyone know whereabouts this chalet is?
Thanks
Hamish
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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its on the main road Mayrhofen centre a lovely chalet yes i wud travel and have done before. I did the snowbombing event in Mayrhofen 2 yrs ago and stayed here you wont regret it. food was fantastic by the way x 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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It's not on the main road, it's on the edge of town. Snowcoach are a bunch of crooks. I know because I used to work for them.
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huw_jenks,
Explain some more?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Fri 24-09-21 15:32; edited 1 time in total
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huw_jenks, HAHAHAHA the horns XXXXXXXXX
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Hamish, for the chalet alex input this grid ref. into google maps search - 47.169666,11.869923
for reference the Penkenbahn lift (main gondola in town) is - 47.163152,11.861007
Linds, yes i was the ski guide for the 08/09 season.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I've done a cheap and cheerful chalet-hotel holiday with them - in Valmeinier, some years ago. I don't much care for chalet hotels which seem to combine the worst of both kinds of institution, but the holiday was good value and we had no complaints.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Who pays bills until they have to, commercial suicide.
If Snowcoach owe the Austrian Government €5M then the Austrian Government need a kick up the back side.
I think you have to be careful with comments like these unless you want to be sued, especially on an open forum.
Can you absolutely prove that Snowcoach owe the Austrian Government €5m huw_jenks,
Lets ask why Snowcoach owe you still, one assume you can answer this from a fact base?
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Last edited by So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much  on Fri 24-09-21 15:33; edited 1 time in total
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You know it makes sense.
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huw_jenks, Seems like you were stiffed, good and propper. If you have that promise in writing (contractual), get a solicitor and start proceedings.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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huw_jenks, Or small claims court and I think you can do it all online now.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I've been to Mayerhofen several times, we're there for 2 weeks at the end of December, it's lovely.
We tend to go self-catering (we eat out) and like to stay at http://anderlerhof.at/
I've no experience with Snowcoach but the information Companies House has on file does not inspire confidence. They show them as having been in administration since 15/06/2009. While the name may not change every season, it did change in 1990 and 2006.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/0a5bee6d5122ff44a5c0860c31233082/compdetails
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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JamesIE, A company in administration since 15/06/2009 would be considered a going concern, and have potential to be sold by the administrator. They would have applied for a winding up order by now if they thought it had no upside.
From huw_jenks, comments you could speculate that it had been managed not on the good side 
Now according to Snowcoach booking conditions the contract is with: Cantabrica Air Brokers Ltd
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/33cc0557cdf738fea6afa9681a795477/compdetails
Trading fine, which could imply that the administrators have sold off the trading elements.
Who knows. But be careful stating snowcoach is in administration, when it appears not to be.
Taken from Booking Conditions from Snowcoach website:
Our Financial Protection Promise
Cantabrica Air Brokers and/or Ski Snowcoach is a company committed
to customer satisfaction and their financial protection. We are therefore
pleased to announce that at no extra cost to you, in accordance
with ‘The Package Travel, Package Tours Regulations 1992’ all
passengers booking with Cantabrica Air Brokers and/or Ski Snowcoach
are fully insured for the initial deposit and subsequently the balance
of all monies paid to us, including repatriation if required, arising from
the cancellation or curtailment of your travel arrangements due to
insolvency of Cantabrica Air Brokers and/or Ski Snowcoach. This
insurance has been arranged by Towergate Chapman Stevens through
Amtrust Insurance Company Limited.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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blytht, They very well may be a going concern, but it does not inspire confidence.
They claim on their site (http://www.snowcoach.co.uk/page.php?id=2&pid=0&mpg=home) "Snowcoach is part of Club Cantabrica Holidays"
PCCH LIMITED
Company No. 01237612
Status: Dissolved 16/12/2008
Date of Incorporation: 16/12/1975
Traded as CLUB CANTABRICA HOLIDAYS LIMITED until 23/01/2006
CLUB CANTABRICA COACH AND AIR HOLIDAYS LIMITED
Company No. 01500517
Incorporation: 06/06/1980
Is in administration according to Companies House. This company traded as SNOWCOACH HOLIDAYS LIMITED until 01/10/1990 and then traded as CLUB CANTABRICA AIR HOLIDAYS LIMITED
This is also the company listed in their T&C from 2008 "Your contract is with Club Cantabrica Coach and Air Holidays Ltd. trading as Snowcoach..." But then they were "...ATOL 2645 and a bond held by ABTA V4636." then too. http://web.archive.org/web/20080430063724/http://snowcoach.co.uk/bookingconditions.php
The terms and condiftions state "Your contract is with Cantabrica Air Brokers Ltd. trading as Snowcoach or Ski Snowcoach Ltd..."
SKI SNOWCOACH LIMITED
Company No. 06861215
Incorporated 27/03/2009
Companies House shows as active, however the name is new prior to 8/09/2009 it was BOURNEWORTH LIMITED.
CANTABRICA AIR BROKERS LIMITED
Company No. 03308198
Incorporation: 27/01/1997
Companies House shows as active
The financial Protection Promise I found on the site lists a differnet insurance company, than the one you found.
"...insured for the initial deposit and subsequently the balance of all monies paid to us, including repatriation if required, arising from the cancellation or curtailment of your travel arrangements due to insolvency of Cantabrica Air Brokers and/or Ski Snowcoach. This insurance has been arranged by Towergate Chapman Stevens through igi Insurance Company Limited."
I've never used them, so I've no direct experiece with them, but I don't think they'd be my first choice. Though they do offer SCGB members a 5% discount.
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I have skied 5 times with Snowcoach, I have never had any problems and have found them excellent value for money. Every holiday I did with them after the first one I found people on it I had met before and i would say a lot had travelled with them several times. Always a good sign to me.
Most of the staff i talked to where reasonable happy i think but i don't think they where there for the money, But a winter in a Ski resort with accommodation, food and some pocket money sounds good to me. I wish I had done it when i was young and if i lost my job i think i would jump at the chance.
I do hope to travel with them again, Not been to the Mayrhofen resort yet, so maybe next year.
PS. Hows Mitch (Mitchell), we met in Val Cenis
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Mike SWest,
Hi Mike; Im keeping well; where are you off tothis season?
Mitch
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JamesIE, A "trading as" does not require Companies House registration.
As I stated:
"Trading fine, which could imply that the administrators have sold off the trading elements."
From your companies house search you may have stumbled on the buyer.
So basically a company springs from the demise of another.
You have to be very careful not to libel snowheads.
I'm worried about your ATOL number discovery
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=490&pagetype=65&appid=2
As 2645 doesn't exist. Its shame the site won't give any history on the number.
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blytht, No neither the ATOL nor the ABTA number exist anymore, but then the company you were contracting with in those T&C is the one in administration, that's likely why the ATOL and ABTA don't exist anymore.
In this instance several companies sprang from the demise of another. Yet they were incoporated before the demise, well before, if I were of a suspicious mind...
It's a shame they don't provide a more complete history of their company on their website.
Do you know if they were proscecuted for the accident in 2005?
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Blewyn, Crystal do the same sort of thing with there catering course. You pay it, but if you accept a position
with them and complete the season your get the course fee back.
The amount of people that must give up half through a season, would be an interesting stat, unobtainable me thinks!
JamesIE, You would expect a buying company to exist prior to the selling of any asset/company by administrator
The administrator would be looking for a least some sort of guarantee/experience of the company to ensure trading continues and any creditor gets paid.
An Administrator would not be in business to long if he sold off companies that then immediately stop trading, as they
are generally there to help any creditor recover as much as possible either via asset sales or continue trading.
A good current example would be Pontins.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Who pays bills until they have to, commercial suicide.
If Snowcoach owe the Austrian Government €5M then the Austrian Government need a kick up the back side.
I think you have to be careful with comments like these unless you want to be sued, especially on an open forum.
Can you absolutely prove that Snowcoach owe the Austrian Government €5m huw_jenks,
Lets ask why Snowcoach owe you still, one assume you can answer this from a fact base? |
Sorry, I made a typo. €5m was meant to read €500000. This is due to the 1euro a night tourist tax not being paid on one of their chalets for a season. The Austrian government had to assume that the chalet was full to capacity for an entire year and came up with the above figure. I do not believe the original tax not being paid was due to oversight, from my experience with the company it was an attempt at evasion. This is the reason that the owner of Snowcoach (proably not good to actually name them on a forum) is never seen in Austria despite having a large part of business in the town. There is a warrant out for his arrest.
Of course this is conjecture, but I do have a reliable source for this information.
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Mmm...so they owe 500,000 euros based on a 1 euro per night tax per guest. Let's say there are 16 weeks in a season and seven nights a week. That equates to 112 nights for the entire season. In order to rake up a tax bill of 500,000 for a season you would need to have 4464 guests a night (500,000 / 112 = 4464).
Are you sure? That is a hell of a big chalet.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Hank wrote: |
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Who pays bills until they have to, commercial suicide.
If Snowcoach owe the Austrian Government €5M then the Austrian Government need a kick up the back side.
I think you have to be careful with comments like these unless you want to be sued, especially on an open forum.
Can you absolutely prove that Snowcoach owe the Austrian Government €5m huw_jenks,
Lets ask why Snowcoach owe you still, one assume you can answer this from a fact base? |
Sorry, I made a typo. €5m was meant to read €500000. This is due to the 1euro a night tourist tax not being paid on one of their chalets for a season. The Austrian government had to assume that the chalet was full to capacity for an entire year and came up with the above figure. I do not believe the original tax not being paid was due to oversight, from my experience with the company it was an attempt at evasion. This is the reason that the owner of Snowcoach (proably not good to actually name them on a forum) is never seen in Austria despite having a large part of business in the town. There is a warrant out for his arrest.
Of course this is conjecture, but I do have a reliable source for this information.
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Mmm...so they owe 500,000 euros based on a 1 euro per night tax per guest. Let's say there are 16 weeks in a season and seven nights a week. That equates to 112 nights for the entire season. In order to rake up a tax bill of 500,000 for a season you would need to have 4464 guests a night (500,000 / 112 = 4464).
Are you sure? That is a hell of a big chalet. |
Like I said, it was assumed that the chalet had been full to capacity for the entire time the tax hadn't been paid, and there may well have been additional fines on top of that.
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huw_jenks, hey my son worked for them this year and suprise he hasnt been paid nor got the deposit back and as for the bonus .... well things havnt changed
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You know it makes sense.
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notenoughsnow, welcome to snowheads. Sorry about your son's experience. 
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FAQ
. I had already booked to go with them before this thread opened up again and it had got me wondering whether I'd done the right thing or not, but as long as I've got a bed, food, skis and a pass I'll be happy.
