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Smoking Bans across Europe

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Just back from St Johann and there was no smoking allowed in the hotel, but some huts on the mountain were 100% smoking and some had sections that were a bit pointless as the smoke could drift anywhere.

What are the rules?
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No smoking anywhere indoors in Switzerland, seems to be observed 100%.
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No smoking in public places (railway stations, airports etc) in France. No smoking in shops/offices/cafes/restaurants/bar tabac indoors or on closed terraces. Only really enforced indoors, not on terraces. Not sure what the case is of enclosed terraces with open roof as you see in ski resorts.
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The European Public Health Alliance has a full list.


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Sage, that's a very out of date list!

Germany is non-smoking in restaurants and bars - tutti completti (especially down here in Bavaria)

Spain has introduced swingeing legislation that does not allow you to even smoke outside bars/restaurants!!!! So a total ban since the beginning of this year. Apparently only lunatics and prisoners are currently allowed to smoke in their establishments, so that tells you what the Spanish government think of smokers Laughing

Austria introduced legislation as of 1.07.2010 which states that if your bar/restaurant is larger than 80 sq. m, then you have to provide a non-smoking area. Smaller places are "supposed" to have extractor systems, but whether they are used all the time is questionable, judging by the fug in some places. The Austrian government seem to be taking a more "slowlee slowlee catchee monkey" approach and as a local, I am noticing how small non-smoker areas are becoming bigger and smoking areas smaller in many mountain huts.

I think Brits and Americans are much more sensitive as you come from strict no smoking regimes and, of course, you notice the difference immediately. But don't worry the natives are catching up - try to be tolerant whilst they learn the error of their ways wink Laughing

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Sage wrote:
The European Public Health Alliance has a full list. snowHead


That is SO out of date !


Last November The Netherlands became the first European country to overturn an unpopular smoking ban imposed on the nation’s bars and cafés two years ago.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/8109698/Dutch-smoking-ban-reversed-for-small-pubs.html
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stanton wrote:
Sage wrote:
The European Public Health Alliance has a full list. snowHead


That is SO out of date !




I should have read it first wink Wonder what they will do in Netherlands if/when a European wide ban is legislated.

Best smoking ban I've seen was in Banff, Alberta, Canada - no smoking in any public place or within so many meters of a public place, even if it was outside. So no smoking on outside balconies, lift queues, lifts etc.

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Just back from Austria, ashtrays provided everywhere (hotel, bars, food huts, etc). In the hotel most English guests will refrain from smoking near kids but in the bars even the 14 year olds are smoking away! The none smokers in our group had no issue with the smoke in the bars and did even comment on how good the atmosphere was!
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To stray off topic a little, we had a discussion about town centre violence and was wondering if assults have risen since the UK smoking ban as nicertine addicts could be more on edge if someone knocked them as they walked past or as strangers stand outside eyeballing each other. The bars in Austria seemed so relaxed I couldn't help but think it was due to being allowed to smoke even the french seem stressed in comparison!
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manicpb, I did a quick google on that - in Preston (2008) after the ban, city centre crime went down but domestic violence went up.

Link here
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When we were in Selva at Christmas, Goalies bar had a smoking section inside, needless to say we only went in once, really strange to walk into a so called Irish pub, and be hit by the rancid stale tobacco smell of days gone by. (Posted by a Reformed intolerant ex-smoker) Toofy Grin
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Sage wrote:
stanton wrote:
Sage wrote:
The European Public Health Alliance has a full list. snowHead


That is SO out of date !


Wonder what they will do in Netherlands if/when a European wide ban is legislated.


Ignore it like everything else in Holland if no one complains no action taken Very Happy Very Happy
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stanton, LOL Very Happy
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You know it makes sense.
Sage wrote:
manicpb, I did a quick google on that - in Preston (2008) after the ban, city centre crime went down but domestic violence went up.

Link here


I know you can make stats say whatever you want but I wouldn't be surprised if there is an element of truth in that report.
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Here in Austria they have banned smoking in restaurants etc but the small umbrella type bars are allowed to choose to ban smoking or not! Hence they all allow smoking as they are afraid of losing trade. They certainly lose plenty from the non smokers!
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carolyn,

During our stay in St Johann, we mainly socialised in our hotel as it was 100% non smoking, but on the last evening went for a pint. (Think the place was called Bunnys). It had 50% smoking and 50% non smoking areas. We choose the non-smoking side, but it was very quiet compared to the smoking side which was packed and looked very smoky. The 2 areas were seperated by a kitchen area, which still allowed the smoke to drift trhough! So we went back to the hotel.
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johnboy wrote:
carolyn,

During our stay in St Johann, we mainly socialised in our hotel as it was 100% non smoking, but on the last evening went for a pint. (Think the place was called Bunnys). It had 50% smoking and 50% non smoking areas. We choose the non-smoking side, but it was very quiet compared to the smoking side which was packed and looked like everyone was having a good time. The 2 areas were seperated by a kitchen area, which still allowed the smoke to drift trhough! So we went back to the hotel.

Toofy Grin Toofy Grin Toofy Grin
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manicpb,

And will probably die a young death too.
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was wondering if assults have risen since the UK smoking ban as nicertine addicts could be more on edge if someone knocked them as they walked past or as strangers stand outside eyeballing each other


LOL! That's priceless!
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bhttp://snowheads.com/ski-forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gife healthy,,by quitting to smoke!!!
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