 Poster: A snowHead
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Anyone tried 'em? What did you think?
I've done a seach through the forums and many people have talked about the Recon, but not the Crossfire. I'm a one week a season Billy at the moment and I reckon I spend at least 70% of my ski time on piste right now so, on paper at least, the Crossfire sounds like a more suitable ski- I want something fast and stable on the hardpack. But if I decide to do another season the off-piste would tip the balance, so I still want a ski that can float.....
Anybody tried both the Recon AND the Crossfire?
I haven't gotten round to testing any skis recently so my only point of reference is my battered K2 X-15s.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If in doubt take the wider ski always, you will learn to use it as its your point of reference, just like when you change your car. First few times its a bit different but it will become habit. 
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Bexen, I've tried them both. The Recon for a few hours in La Rosiere & both the Recon (many times) & the Crossfire at Xscape.
The Crossfire would be the better choice for your one week 70% on piste use requirement, although I'd prefer the Volkl 5* or the Fischer RX8. There's some cracking RX8 deals going at the moment which would make me go that route. However the Recon would be the better choice if you skied considerably more weeks/a lot more off piste etc.
Like the Rossi B2, the Recon is a very good all round ski & has many fans however, like the B2, I found it damp, lifeless & unrewarding. If you're considering the Recon I'd recommend testing it alongside the Atomic Metron M11/b5, the Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous/Top Fuel, the Stockli Stormrider XL all of which give you a bigger bang for your buck. Also try the Volkl AC3 although I haven't tried it myself.
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I would have thought that alot of those skis would be too advanced for a skier like Bexen.
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Hi ponder, yeah you could be right..... I'm never sure where to match skis/ability.....
I don't know, I want a ski that will push me, make me work hard, and make me pay for my mistakes so that I learn!
Anyway, my vitals are: I have a season in the three valleys under my belt where I skiied every day and had a few one-on-one lessons, and I used to do a little bit of recreational race training at Rossendale when I was a kid and then at Uni. In addition to the seasons I probably have about 12 weeks skiing since I was 9 (I'm now 25). I'm can easily tackle most things on piste though have yet to nail the moguls with style. Off piste- I was getting fairly fluid by the end of the season having skied with people better than me who would not accept my wussy excuses and dragged me on regardless. I think I've done all of the recognised itinaries in the three valleys and in the second half of the season I was definitely off piste more than on in a desperate attempt to stay away from the crowds- so I'm happy to trek for a while to find the powder.
I'm 5'8'', 70kg and female. What would you recommend? (I am probably biased towards K2 'cos I loved by X-15s even though they are way too long for me at 183)
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Buy the Cheif, stay off the piste. I would hope thereafter you'll resemble someone with a coat-hanger stuck firmley in their mouth.
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Bexen, From your experience the list I suggested would still stand if it wasn't for your light weight & gender.
If you want to stay with K2 I think the Recon would be ideal as it's gonna be way better off piste than the Crossfire & it's the softest of my list. However, lastest design thinking suggest that women should ski on a female specific ski. These tend to be a tad softer than the standard model but, & more importantly, their binding position is slightly further forward to suit the female physique.
The K2 female specific range is the Omni Series & with the feamle version of the Recon being the T9 Lotta Luv & the female version of the Crossfire is the T9 Burnin' Luv. My missus has the Burnin' Luv's & thinks they're great.
I suggest testing them both.
http://www.k2skis.com/homes/home.asp?series=omni
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As spiderjon said, experience-wise those stiffer skis seem like a good choice for you - something you could grow into, but still handle OK right now. However, you probably don't have the weight/power to flex them properly, and mind find that the skis ride you indtead of the other way around. I like spiderjon's suggestion of the K2 female range, which are supposed to be very good skis.
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Thanks spyderjon, - yep, I guess the only answer is to go and do some testing. What a hardship  Thanks for your list and advice. I've always been put off by female specific 'cos they plaster everything with pink or baby blue flowers and the like........ ! Still, function over form and all that.
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Bexen, A non girlie option would be the Atomic Metron M10 or M11 as they have an optional forward mounting position (user changeable) the the further option of virtually any postion once you figure out how to play around with the rail system. A pal of mine who's you're ability level is on the M11's & he's only 140lbs & he loves them. In 152 or 162 they'd reward any level of input you apply but are still fine for cruising in the afternoons.
BTW, EB's at Castleford have demo skis in all girlie K2 models & you can test them on the Xscape slope.
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How about the Rossi B2's as opposed to the K2 Recons? I would like to think that the B2's would be a better option as they have a better specification than the Recons and are more forgiving than the Recons.
Any thoughts?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Hornster, Bexen says she wants:
"I want something fast and stable on the hardpack....." & "I want a ski that will push me, make me work hard, and make me pay for my mistakes so that I learn!"
Nothing personal & I know I'll get flamed for this but imho that's the total opposite of the B2's characteristics. The B2 is a good ski but technology has moved on in the last season with the Metron's, Stormriders & Recon's & this season with the Hot Rod's, Volkl AC's & Rossi own new Zenith's etc.
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| spyderjon wrote: |
Hornster, Bexen says she wants:
"I want something fast and stable on the hardpack....." & "I want a ski that will push me, make me work hard, and make me pay for my mistakes so that I learn!"
Nothing personal & I know I'll get flamed for this but imho that's the total opposite of the B2's characteristics. The B2 is a good ski but technology has moved on in the last season with the Metron's, Stormriders & Recon's & this season with the Hot Rod's, Volkl AC's & Rossi own new Zenith's etc. |
Sounds like you ski a hell of alot, and have tested a hell of alot of skis buddy, do you ever work?
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You know it makes sense.
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| Hornster wrote: |
| I would like to think that the B2's would be a better option as they have a better specification than the Recons |
A foam lover I guess 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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spyderjon,
No.It sounds like you have found your ski and I doubt we will find Stormriders there anyway,
I might even be chasing b5's ..!!
But all things considered I don't expect to get the conditions to really know what a ski will give. I'm expecting hardpack so a slalom type ski will do in all probalbilty.
Should be fun and another perspective anyway
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| JT wrote: |
| Should be fun and another perspective anyway |
You betcha.
I'll bring my screwdriver & get you slotted in to my b5's. What's your boot length?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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spyderjon,
Do you know, I'm not really sure, I'll have a look when I get home, I have a size 10 in Salomon and seem to recall 328...!!!
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JT, That's near enough!
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