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Radical freeski Mountaineering from Montaz-Rosset Studio
http://vimeo.com/21063670


Time to get the rope out!
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Isnt that steep side stepping?
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Other than the fact that they have planks on their feet that bears no resemblance to any activity/sport I participate in. Shocked
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remind me not to buy any dynastar skis off ebay that were only used for 6 days very careful owner and are in as new condition. wink
really cant see the point of that apart from pub time stories.. not to mention what may have happened if one of the 2 uphill guys had lost an edge..
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T Bar, they have skis on, they are skiing (to paraphrase someone on another ski forum) wink

I wonder, at which point do you acknowledge that the skis are hindrance, take them off, strap them to your pack and climb down?
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Zero-G, that wouldn't make a very good narcissists vid though brethren
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Yep. Pointless.
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sliding down rocks on ones back bottom aint skiing dont see the point either. Puzzled
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do you think he might have done better if he hadnt been holding his camera ?
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It's a headcam. You clearly see both of his hands.

Whilst it doesn't seem like skiing to me and admittedly at first I did think "that looks sh*t, whats the point?" it is just another way of getting around in the mountains, who am I to say it's stupid. Although going on the title I was expecting him to straight line it.
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Well if someone think he can ski down a slope in a straight line of a width half his ski length then he is welcome to try. Side stepping it is different matter.
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Looks like he needs to buy some blades - the skis seem too long Happy
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Looks like he needs to buy some blades - the skis seem too long Happy

Just what I was thinking!
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Perhaps the hint is in the title, it's ski mountaineering, so it's not only about skiing. While I probably wouldn't do what they're doing (I have neither the skills nor the balls) I can understand why they would want to Madeye-Smiley
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Zero-G, wouldn't proper ski-mountaineers have rapelled in a more controlled fashion to the point where they could ski?
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i'd class seb montaz as a proper ski mountaineer
i detect a bit of sarcasm in the title to the vid
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Arno, I stand corrected. Certainly looks it from his site.

What I can't see is why bother putting the video on the internet?
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give us something to talk about Wink
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"the piste map said turn left at the top of the lift, you sure this is a blue boys?!"
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If thats what turns you on.. knock ya self out... looked fun to me! Toofy Grin
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looked fun to me! Toofy Grin


Word. Some nice turns at the top. Shame someone boot packed right up the middle Wink
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wouldn't proper ski-mountaineers have rapelled in a more controlled fashion to the point where they could ski?

You'd think!

Looks wild though.
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Seb is a great guy - he has guided me in the past and had me on my knees at the end of the day trying to keep up with him. He rips on skis and snowboards....
I think he qualified as a high mountain guide aged 22!! but when you grow up in Les Arcs skiing everyday it does help...

Just very glad he hasn't guided me down that Shocked althugh my snowboard might have just fitted.
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Pointless? Maybe, but no more so than paying someone to drag you up a hill, putting long unmanageable planks on your feet to slide down, then paying someone to drag you back up again.

Bonkers? Possibly.

Skillful? Certainly. Try balancing, never mind side slipping, on something steep (but less exposed) while carrying poles in one hand, ice axe in the other, and a 15kg pack on your back.

Dangerous? Oh, yes.

Fun? Yee-ha! Very Happy Very Happy
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Chamcham, you've summed it up perfectly. End of discussion Very Happy

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OK, no risk no fun but don't understand why he didn't get the rope out to reduce the risk and damage to the skis.
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Maybe they had one of those "Ok, who brought the rope?" moments? But somehow I don't think so. I've been following Monsieur Montaz on Vimeo and Twitter for some time - he does some scary and exciting stuff. And you have to trust a UIAGM guide to know what he's doing!
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DB wrote:
OK, no risk no fun but don't understand why he didn't get the rope out to reduce the risk and damage to the skis.


Because he probably doesn't pay for his skis
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Zero-G,
Always thought a guide should minimize the risk and maximise the fun - I don't see that happening here. He might be the best skier on the planet but if one of the group members slipped further up the couloir they could have all gone down together.

Maybe there's a fine line between being gnarly and f'ing stupid
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DB, I don't think those are clients, I think they are friends/fellow mountaineers - they appear in quite a few of his videos.

That said, even if they were clients, if they asked for that type of terrain and they had the skills to do it, then I don't see anything wrong with this picture.
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DB, Shocked Shocked ouchy.....beautiful powder tho, crushed nuts anyone???
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DB, I don't think those are clients, I think they are friends/fellow mountaineers - they appear in quite a few of his videos.

That said, even if they were clients, if they asked for that type of terrain and they had the skills to do it, then I don't see anything wrong with this picture.


I'm no guide but always thought you should not put multiple members of a group in a high risk situation all at the same time if you can avoid it. Makes about as much sense to me as skiing down a steep avi prone slope all at the same time.
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DB, I only know a little bit about skiing and a little bit about mountaineering so am not in a position to debate this properly. Looking at the footage, the other two skiers are stationary above the skier wearing the helmet cam and not as close to him as they appear to be (when you look up, perspective is foreshortened), so perhaps they are being safe? I can't say with any kind of authority...

Whatever they are doing, I do enjoy watching it. All very thrilling!
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Zero-G,

Just at the end of the clip he appears to give the skiers above him an instruction with his ski pole for them to come down behind him. Sometimes guides go down to see what the risks are and if it is safe / possible to go further. There's a lot less risk him going back up than the others coming down irrespective of their level. Puzzled

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DB wrote:
There's a lot less risk him going back up than the others coming down

That can be true of many mountaineering situations but is not the point. You don't participate in the sport if you want risk free. Yes, you want to either mitigate or decrease the risk but a single truth about mountaineering is that you risk death doing it.
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They aren't his clients, they are his mates and sponsored pro skiers!

If he was "working" and on that route he would of rapped of that rock spike.
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I risk death everytime I drive my car but that doesn't mean I should encourage it, however thrilling it looks.

I'm not a gnarly Ski Mountaineer although will be needing Ski Mountaineering equipment (crampons, harness, rope, ice axe etc) in early April when I do three (Großer Geiger, Großvenediger & Grossglockner) 3300m+ peaks in a five day period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_mountaineering

I wouldn't even do what Seb did on rental skis.

What happened next did they rope up?
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DB, [quote]
I'm not a gnarly Ski Mountaineer although will be needing Ski Mountaineering equipment (crampons, harness, rope, ice axe etc) in early April when I do three (Großer Geiger, Großvenediger & Grossglockner) 3300m+ peaks in a five day period.


wow that´s pretty impressive, (and I always had you down as a snowblader in a pink fartbag wink )
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Yes that's right I'm hoping to be the first person to do it on Snowblades in a pink fartbag. Wink
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