 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi , could you check on something rather specific. I have a friend who races to a high standard and would like to take the Eurotest to "put it in the bank" before going through the BASI system. but at the moment this person has an ASSI and an APC1 and heard that you can only take the ET if you are a BASI member.
Is this true or can anyone rock up and take the ET
If true what is the minimum BASI you would need to have? (full member or associate ?)
Would completing an L1 coach or L1 Alpine course qualify?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'd be interested in the answer to this too 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sideshow_Bob, yeah but you suck 
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skimottaret, Sideshow_Bob,
I'll find out!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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skimottaret, I'd like to get better before I get too old to have a chance of passing it
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Sideshow_Bob, i might be old but fat is fast 
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stewart woodward, very true !! I mostly suck and only feel fast when exiting a course in disgrace and out of control !
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skimottaret, I checked with Dave Renouf and you need to be L2 as minimum, or join the system of one of the other Eurogroup countries.
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beanie1, thanks for checking on this  I will pass it on to my mate. Shame a coach L1 wont do....
ps.. is there any thoughts of putting all these Q and A's you have been so good to get for us on SH's onto a FAQ's page on the members part of the BASI site? would be really useful imo
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beanie1, rob and i are chatting about this and want to know something else. After successful completion of the L1 alpine or coach course, shadowing hours, first aid CPM etc do you become a full BASI member?
if not why not?
and if so as a full member why could you not apply to take the ET?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| After successful completion of the L1 alpine or coach course, shadowing hours, first aid CPM etc do you become a full BASI member? |
Yes you do after L1 Coach.
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| and if so as a full member why could you not apply to take the ET? |
L1 Coach is one module of the L3/ISIA requirement, but not of the L2 (instructor). So it could be argued that L1 Coach is in excess of the L2 (instructor) minimum level in the heirarchy, and so not inconsisent with that previous reply?
L1 (instructor) I guess is a more difficult argument.
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L1 instructor now qualifies for full membership, since several months ago (same time as L1 coach qualified too).
Coach and instructor are supposed to be 2 separate heirarchies and in my experience and that of others I know L1 coach is definitely less demanding than L2 instructor technically. May not be in the future though.
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You know it makes sense.
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so an L1 full BASI alpine member is not allowed to take the ET module ??? italians take it before entering their system, french anytime after their first module... hmm....
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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beanie1, can you ask BASI why an L1 coach or Instructor full member cannot take the ET?
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Poster: A snowHead
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skimottaret, I would be interested too
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Surely its because the L1's are at such a low standard, many only do that level and then discontinue BASI.
Also having the level 2 + eurotest got me in to the ESF, level 1 + ET would have got me nothing. so maybe its an older rule since before the test tech came in?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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jjc james, my friend is a current FIS racer and would like to get on the BASI pathway, but has used all annual leave on attending races so would like to do an L1 indoors in the London area, then take the ET next season. i wouldnt assume all L1's are of a low technical standard, you got to start somewhere.
entry to ESF isnt the issue but my mate figures might as well do the ET now before deciding on spending years and 10's of K's on courses.....
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skimottaret, will ask.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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skimottaret, is he eligible for an exemption still being a racer, if he doesn't know get him to ring the office they have a exemption criteria. I think the one i have may be old as i've not looked for one in a while.
Yeah but think about this way, i teach many people that could probably get their level 1 indoors, some of them having only skied a couple of weeks (i passed the L1 snowboard after 6-7 days on a board). Would you as an organisation (basi) feel happy to let them (with no form of validation other than an indoor L1) loose on a ET course? A bit dangerous i think.
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jjc james, dont think points are quite good enough for an exemption...
beanie1, thanks
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skimottaret,
"The ADC Level 1 is not permitted to take the Eurotest because the Coaching scheme is not recognised as a standalone qualification on the recognition chart of the French. The French only accept the BASI L2. At this stage there is nothing BASI can do about this because this is written in French law."
I have asked what therefore stops the candidate entering the Eurotest outside France.
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beanie1, merci or danke more appropriately
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If you have less than 100 FIS Points (Men) you get an exemption from the Eurotest
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