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After a little while trying to tackle a 360 deg. carve a finally manages one today!

I am a very happy boy and now believe that there should be a special lane in every lift que for 360 badge holders only!

I even managed to leave nice clean rail tracks too...

Anyhow - just needed to vent my pleasure... happy half-term!
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....and I thought skiers just made mundane repetitive sysmetrical S turns all day long Toofy Grin

Surely riding outrageous random lines other than S shapes is reserved for snowboards ?
You'll be sitting down in the middle of the piste next snowHead
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Congratulations, perhaps I should try that (though it might be easier with piste skis).
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Flangensax now it's time to try this with SG skis Wink
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flangesax, Pah, that's nuffink.. I've been witnessed doing a horizontal and vertical 360 simultaneously. Little Angel Can't say my skis were in contact with the snow for most of it though.. wink

Nice one - well done! Very Happy snowHead
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ahhh... fanks Embarassed

I managed it on a nice shinyish pair of K2 Rictor 176cm / 16m@174cm

primoz, still looking for those 'SG' skis though!...
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flangesax,

Was it deliberate or did you just have a problem comitting to the next turn? Wink

How are the Rictors shaping up, pros / cons? Does that all terrain camber make so much difference?
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I'd like to try a 360, whats the best way to do this

Thanks
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kendub, plenty of speed and a wide, empty piste Madeye-Smiley
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DB, love em' and yes!

The only real 'con' of them is the weight. They are a heavy ski, which in combination with my bulk can strain the chairlifts a little!

They do work for me, although I still haven't tried them in knee deep + pow... should be able to soon though with a bit of luck!

kendub, pick a safe area with a decent pitch and then a slight incline.... carve a turn... don't stop... just like that!
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flangesax, tried it a few times, but always on >90mm skis and never managed it yet!!!! I always tried it after a slope on the flat, perhaps I should get some skinnier skis and try it on a constant incline...
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kitenski, I've found it's easiest on the flat or on a very shallow slope and one does need quite a bit of speed to ensure the last quarter can be cleanly carved and not smeared. It's a lot easier on my slalom skis than on my mantras - can do it no problem on the former but had a couple of goes on the latter and not quite managed it yet.
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Reading this has really made me want to try... I have a horrible feeling this is going to get messy... Madeye-Smiley
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kitenski, mine are 80mm underfoot and stick like glue!

Sideshow_Bob, now you can have a badge and get in the special lift que too!

Schuss in Boots, the nessier the better! Shocked
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flangesax, fair play I am out in the Alps in about 10 days time so lets see if we can do it on 110/120 underfoot just for a laugh

Shall we open a book on this rolling eyes

My opening bid is a pair of nice all leather ski workers gloves Laughing now whats that web site called Oh yes SkiFail .com
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Nice work Smile I've often tried but none of us have made it all the way round yet....Perhaps at least a sticker is in order if we can't manage a lift queue?
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livetoski, there's a broad pisted area above Peisey that's about a quarter of a mile wide. Try it there.

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I've nearly done it a few times, but never gone all round the way round, well done flangesax. Instructors seem to be able to do it at really low speed, on any old piste - make it look soooooooooooooooo effortless. Evil or Very Mad
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Does a very big 360 count? as in one that involves a chairlift Toofy Grin
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Will try this tomorrow!!!
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pam w, we do? I'm just sat trying to work out where I can get enough speed and enough space!
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pam w, not too sure about that one... just a little problem with... erm what's it called... oh yeah... physics.
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OK, some instructors. the one who was most impressive, IIRC was Dave Peek - he just did them all the time, any old where. It was his standard way of stopping. Rick Schnellman does it a lot in his DVDs, too, though quite discreetly. Effortless, and no high speeds involved.
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nice backtrack...
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he just did them all the time, any old where. It was his standard way of stopping.

...physics pam w, ...physics...
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Well of course, it takes a fair bit of skill and practice. wink They seem to have sorted the physics, probably because of so little friction on those edges. And who's backtracking? I spent a week with Dave Peek and he did it all the time. There's instructors and instructors, I suppose.
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rob@rar, I know the one you mean, I fancy it over the bridge just before the St Bernard Apartment block, after a few beers on the last run home wink wink if I have a ski fail moment and end up on someones balcony at least I should get a drink for trying Laughing
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Will never forget my first one sooo much fun!!! Did one in Chill factore late last year highlight of my weekend
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Fattes13, Please tell me we're still talking about 360's... Shocked
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We are talking about carving a circle back up the hill right? Not convinced that you can do that at any old speed on any pitch...
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pam w, lol, they mean carving a turn, but instead of transitioning to turn in the other direction, you continue the turn to carve back uphill and round making a full circle. Not a flat pivot/slide 360.

Don't think anyone will be doing any in a fridge either ^^ Laughing
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Laughing Laughing rolling eyes Laughing Laughing
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Failed attempt here...


http://youtube.com/v/S6nhYEpTsWI

There used to be a clip on youtube showing a full one, but I can't find it now. Pretty sure the link came from a thread on here, but I'm getting on a bit now and my memory is failing me. Laughing
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clarky999, Can be done if you wait to engage the turn on the near falt bit at the bottom of chill. Have seen plenty of them done in the fridge. Its amazing what you can do on a pair of 165 (Edidet Fat fingers typo) Sl Factory Skis when you have the right technique wink

Hill not required either for the turn that is I am sure there is a video of Ted Ligity doing them on a flat bit at the bottom of the piste at the Moscow Dual Slalom thing a few years back


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I've tried it on a slope many moons ago but fell into an anti-clockwise turn at circa 1-2 o'clock. I'm assuming the hill is required before the 360 to give you the momentum then it's easier to do on a flat section.
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I know what a 360 carve is, thanks, and as Fattes13 says, they don't need any very special conditions, if you have the right technique.

Depends on the turn radius of your skis, obviously. I guess with 15m skis you need - well - let's see - tricky, with all that physics and me being so stupid and female and all, but I'll take a wild guess that a piste around 35 m would do the trick.
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I saw Alain Baxter almost complete a carved 360 at Hemel. He got most of the way around in a clean carve, but the top of the "loop the loop" looked like there was a bit of steering going on to complete the turn against gravity. I've not tried a complete 360 but I guess with a pair of slalom skis (or blades Twisted Evil ) it's not going to be impossible, especially if you have a steep section followed by some flats to play with.
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You must have gravity on your side to complete it without swishing your tails round or 'steering'. It can't be done properly on the flat at a low speed etc etc...
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found that vid Fattes13, quality cam-corded off the tv...

http://youtube.com/v/6VnO0p8HM4I

Yeah... I'm sure that speed wasn't anything to do with it as it was at the end of a slalom race... also... not entirely sure that the ski was carved on the turning radius as well... lots off puff coming up when the turn is started??... but I need an expert to judge that... however... awesome show-off finish... and I recon he can have a badge if he asks nice enough!
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