 Poster: A snowHead
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I have just started waxing my own ski's and after half a day skiing the bases look white or partially white. What is this? Is the wax too hard or too soft?
The bases have had 10 or so waxes.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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bash them together and it'll shake the snow of them 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Tried that and don't need to go to Specsavers
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Did you scrape the wax off?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Yes scraped the wax off, brass brushed, horsehair brushed and nylon brushed.
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Iron too hot
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There's nothing wrong with skis nor with wax or procedure. It's just the way it is  Wax lasts on skis from 30 to 50km... maximum. If snow is more aggressive it lasts even less. So it's perfectly normal, that ptex looks dry and white after day of skiing. That's why I'm telling that properly maintained skis should be waxed after every skiing.
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Never thought of that. The wax wasn't smoking. Iron set to 120'c.
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after you hot waxed them, how long did you leave them to cool and in what conditions did you leave them to cool?
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I left them for approx 2-3 hours. Left them at room temprature.
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primoz, Are you serious? 30-50Km max? 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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A well waxed ski will late a weeks skiing if you use good wax Jerby, I thing you need your iron hotter about 130-135 or you are moving your iron to fast the tip ane tall top sheet should get warm
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Yes I'm serious Schuss in Boots. Wax doesn't last for weeks as Glen Charman wrote.... even if it's "good wax". You can ski for weeks, but wax is not there where it's suppose to be after first day already. So it's just about you and this what you feel for your skis. Also suggesting temperatures around 130-135 is "a bit" weird. Sure fluoro powders are ironed around 135-145c, but for normal waxes (including high fluoro non-powder waxes), temperatures between 110 and 115c are right. 135c is way too hot for normal waxes. Besides... higher temperature won't make wax last longer, but it will surely make good stuff (mostly speaking about fluoro here) in wax to evaporate instead of go into ski (that's for example reason, why fluoro powders are ironed into the base in one single pass).
So once again... setting high temperature on iron won't help wax last longer. In fact it will make wax worse, and it increases your options to damage base. Cooling for longer time (20mins is in 99% of cases all you need), or setting skis to cool of in warm/cold environment (room temperature is just fine, but even letting them cool at -10c won't kill your ski or wax), won't change a thing. Using "good wax" won't change a thing. Let's say I know a bit about good, bad and all between waxes. But even with waxes costing 100+eur for few grams, you still can't go on and on without waxing. Waxes are done to make skis faster, and that's reason why they have very limited life time. So skis just need to be waxed regularly that's it. And with regularly I mean after every skiing (including proper wax cycles after getting new skis or after getting them stone grinded).
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You know it makes sense.
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All the waxes that I use have the required iron temperature written on the packet.
I noticed my skis looking dry most days with the snow conditions we have had recently and I was waxing them every day.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Did the wax have a little string sticking out of the top.
Seriously, I agree that the iron was maybe too hot. How long it lasts depends on the snow, if its really icy, not very long, nice soft snow, days. Were they white before you waxed them?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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How old are the skis - perhaps a base grind will help absorption? Also are you hot scraping the skis or using a cleaner?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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This is the 2nd week for the ski's. Done a hot scrap.
The bases were white before waxing too. As above, It has been icy here in places so that might explain it. Pistes were better today and after another wax last night the ski's don't look white.
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Sounds like the ptex was totally "dried out". A bit of tlc (more waxing) should sort it out.
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FAQ
As I said... wax doesn't last for days, so even with regular waxing, skis will be dry on the end of day. It's normal thing, and you can't do anything against it, except to wax them again on the end of day. Ok ideally you would wax them between the day already (or have 2 or 3 pairs of skis to get you through the day), but that would be "a bit" of exaggeration already 
