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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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IIRC the roads from Europort are much better than Zeeb, straight out into m-way standard roads with good signage to many destinations. Zeeb is not quite as good. Also check which ferry gets in earliest, I'm sure it is the Europort one and I is a later depart from Hull which may suit. Europort crossing has newer ships. Costs are the same.
Why am I crossing to Zeeb soon? For France it is about 50kms shorter
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The Europoort ferry departs Holland almost 2 hours later than the other. This would be a big help on the return drive, The boat is also bigger and better.
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L3VSA, out of interest, why Lofer? Drive a little further and there are better places.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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1. I have only driven from Zeebrugge to the Chiemsee area (Lofer is ca. 1 hr further on). That took about 10 hrs including stops (normal traffic - one driver). You should expect heavy traffic on a Saturday.
2. No tolls is correct, on the viamichelin route. The route viamichelin shows me is very strange around Munich, though. It seems to direct you right through the town (steps 19-24 on the route Zeebrugge-Lofer). If you don't know Munich, I would just stay on the A99 ring autobahn round the north of the city until you reach the A8 Salzburg autobahn.
3. Winter tyres are required in Austria and Germany if the road conditions are "wintry", as they could be in March. Check whether you have the M+S symbol on your tyres (and at least 4-5 mm tread).
Lofer is a relatively small area and well suited to beginners/intermediate skiers. The main ski area, the Loferer Alm, is reached from the village with a two-stage gondola (bubble) lift. The slopes of the main area are mostly only moderately steep, fine for intermediates (there are a few steeper runs). There is also a large field near the middle station which is used as a beginners' area (with tows, if I remember correctly - it's a while since I've been there). I think the track from the middle station back down to the village would be pretty testing for a beginner, probably better to take the lift down, at least at the start of the week.
Hope you have a great holiday!
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I've done Zeebrgugge-Rosyth and Europoort-Hull but not Zeebrugge-Hull. Prices for the Hull route will be the same regardless of port. For Austria, either, but I'd probably suggest Europoort over Zeebrugge. For France, the opposite. Dutch motorways are ace, and no traffic (in that area), but you can guarantee that Zeebrugge-Brussels will be traffic (but flowing). Turn off to the Zeebrugge port is useless iirc - think you turn off the "fast" lane and see GB cars frantically trying to change lane cos they just missed the (tiny) sign. PS ignore the satnav at Eindhoven if you go that way, cos I think they re-routed the motorway (same is true on section of motorway between Utrecht & IJmuiden for those going to/from Newcastle).
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| L3VSA wrote: |
...3. Are winter tyres required in Austria? I have a 4x4 with all weather tyres and carry snow chains (which were bought for France last year but only used to get up my street in Sheffield in December  ) |
Yes, but maybe your all seasons tyres would comply:
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.. Chains should be carried and used as dictated by local signs or road conditions. Reduced speed limits may apply.
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(1) - All vehicles driving on snow covered roads must have winter tyres (or all-season tyres marked M&S/mud and snow) during the winter season (from 1 November to 15 April) and if roads have a covering of snow, slush or ice outside these dates. Tyres must have a minimum tread depth of 4mm. .. |
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Okay will go and check my tyres I think. Forking out for a full set of winter tyres (which imo is unneccesary, the other car is a 3 series fitted with winter tyres just to enable getting to work, would not consider using it over the 4x4 which has got us everywhere we needed to go) will make it totally uneconomical to go and will probably end up in France again.
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L3VSA, out of interest, why Lofer? Drive a little further and there are better places.
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It appears from what I can see to suit our needs. Family friendly, decent price inc. lift pass (£1000 for the 3 of us half board), access to blues without drag lifts. Open to suggestions but don't really want to be in one of the big resorts.
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FAQ
from the little I have found online so far.
. And I always thought they were from Marks and Spencer 
