 Poster: A snowHead
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I was just on the 'other-side' and it is like a ghost town really. David Goldsmith is valiantly trying to keep it going but there has only been 1 post on any of the fori today!! Thank God for snowheads where life can carry on as normal 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think there were only about 6 yesterday, as I said previously on SCGB forum will the last one out turn off the lights 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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What?? Where??? Someone's posted a message there????? I'll have to go look quickly.... 
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Should I sign up to this exciting place you guys talk about? 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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although snowHeads seems to have taken over from SCGB very successful, the boarders forum over here doesn't seem as vigorous as it was over there before MO day. did some of those guys go somewhere else?
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I guess that there were other snowboard forums up and running before MO day. WTFH the SCGB is not that bad, with hindsight, they have made a mistake over the forum though. I save at least my membership in discounts each year, just got £60 off ferry crossing. Still pissed off with them though 
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Just cancelled the direct debit!
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Well that makes about 8 posts on the SCGB site but 5 or 6 were agreeing with David about it being a ghost town, I suspect what happened is that all most all the keen posters came here and just the lurkers were left behind.
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The Darkside was pretty quiet on SCGB until shortly before MO day; we didn't manage to track down many...
I reckon critical mass of posters is about 100-150, that's the point at which I found that I couldn't keep track of all of what was going on snowHeads (without losing my job...)
It would be an interesting exercise for SCGB to see how much they could boost usage by, for example, seeing how many of a random sample of 100 members they could persuade to start "using"....
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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If you take Ian Hopkinson, D G Orf, David Goldsmith, and a few others.....look at the number of posts they've racked up here on snowHeads when they could be posting on SCGB. The ski club could work at getting them back (not that we're letting them go )
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Slightly off-topic, but...
A number of places that offer ski club discounts will give the same discount to non-ski club members.
I've managed it - you say up front that you're not a SCGB member, but if you can't secure a discount you'll go somewhere else. Obviously doesn't work with something like ferry crossings, but in other, more competitive industries you can still get money off.
Sorry, I can be a bit of a cheapskate sometimes!!
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You know it makes sense.
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Well I try. I'm not always right because most of my info comes from my slightly poor memory, see the buying a property abroad thread where ise is very kindly correcting my errors regarding Switzerland, when it's important though I have always tried to check the details
Ok I'm a sad muppet and have a permanent internet connection plus I've not been doing a lot of paying work lately so I've had the time to post a lot of useless and a little useful stuff both here and on the SCGB site
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Quietly guys, although I am a bona fide member, the ferry company concerned never asked me for my member number. I could have been some frightful chap who wouldn't drink G&Ts on deck with the skipper  Could just have been an aberration on their part though!
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Poster: A snowHead
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masopa, whatever it takes to get that big rock in Antwerpen ay?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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There were just 12 posts in total on the SCGB website yesterday over 7 threads I think that just about sums up what the SCGB did to itself. Snowheads by comparison had several hundred messages posted in the same time
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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No posts today so far!
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Which is all the more reason for SCGB to support snowHeads
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Elizabeth In what way would you want the ski club to support snowheads? -just curious
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Maybe because we are doing their job for them ? 
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true blue, an excellent start would have to acknowledged snowHeads existence in the e-mail to registered users. This was certainly raised before the e-mail was sent, but to no effect.
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I think it would greatly benefit both parties for a link to exist...us to promote them, and them to advertise/fund us. The reason they say that they stopped non-member access to their chat area was for legal reasons. If they support snowHeads, they still get the benefit, but without the risk.
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The SCGB Snowboard forum has finally died: no current threads at all.
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Ditto for the Instructors/Guides forum and the members meet up will go the same way after today unless someone posts soon, 3 others havn't had a post in almost a week, and if it were'nt for the complaints even the General forum would be almost dodo like in its appearence
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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R.I.P. SCGB forae
Floreat SnowHeads.
Endorse Elizabeth's suggestion of bi-directional links. Or even a text signpost if SCGB feel a link might smack of endorsement. Nothing to stop them giving a mention to a few other active snowsports forums while they're at it.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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ian don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen
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Endorse Elizabeth's suggestion of bi-directional links. Or even a text signpost if SCGB feel a link might smack of endorsement. Nothing to stop them giving a mention to a few other active snowsports forums while they're at it. |
Yeah right... and hell might freeze over. I can't see the ski club endorsing or linking to anything (assuming they know how to link, that is) that they are not involved with or get some financial benefit from.
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You know it makes sense.
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sherman that's a little unkind, only a little mind you, I'm convinced that ian's idea could work, so sure am I that the ski club will take it up as soon as they here of it that I am going to despatch one of my well known flying pigs, in a blue striped neon jersey, to inform them of it, at once 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I am sure that SCGB would be very reluctant to do anything to promote what they must feel is a 'break away' group.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Chris - I (naively perhaps) genuinely think that they're not against us. Maybe not supporting us, but I think Laura and co are happy that we have a new playground....if only because it gets us out of their hair.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I tend to agreed with you Elizabeth. The last post I read over there seemed to suggest that of those members left that use the forum, the overall view was that they're tired of the attempts by those of us who still care to keep the discussion in the limelight. They appear to accept that if the forum dies as a result of the lack of interest, then the SC's scarce resources could be better spent elsewhere.
As someone suggested, 97% of the SC membership evidently don't use the forum, so they are hardly likely to mourn it's passing. A very narrow viewpoint when weighed against the growth of the internet and the reach it has into everyday life.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yes vey true unfortunately I think they're wrong I suspect that quite a high percentage may have used the forums if only as lurkers, with maybe the odd post from time to time, the people who seem glad everyone else has left don't seem to either realise or care that the only significant posts these days are from those of us who also post here, they are not winning many friends, they whinge about the people who complain and tell us to post something more wworthwhile but they themselves cannot post anything worthwhile, does anyone else thing that wrong ?
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D G Orf, the only response that comes to mind is, "Then why are you bothering to post over there?"
Here's an idea: every time someone asks a question there, answer it here and post a link to it there!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It's a good question ssh unfortunately I'm not sure of the answer
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D G Orf, I am sure you are right: a small number of members may have actually posted, but many more (how many?) may have visited.
I note you use the term "lurker". According to Wintermet (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame58.html) this is a (derogatory) term for surfers who just come to watch and listen. Why should that gain such a nasty term as Lurker? I only recently started posting on forums. It seemed quite brave to do: you lot might sneer at my ignorance of etiquette or slang. In fact everyone here is very suportive, but not true of all forums.
I think shy listeners should be welcomed and encouraged, not criticised.
I also visit SCGB a couple of times a day and put in the odd post. Why? Mainly to rescue the few lost souls who stumble into the place thinking it might offer some support or advice and guide them over to Snowheads.
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I wouldn't consider 'lurker' to be a term of abuse.
Both the old SCGB and snowHeads have a very welcoming attitude to new posters, and if people don't want to post then that's fine too. I've not been a user of online forums until the SCGB site and I don't think I posted that much there.
I still go over to SCGB quite regularly - doesn't take long to read everything!
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Sorry I didn't mean to be derogatory, I simply could not come up with another descriptive term for someone who reads but does not take part in the conversation
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I think Jonpim, has a very valid point. This board has its own culture and it is friendly, welcoming and positive.
I think the emoticons help too. It can be easy to get misunderstood when typing and irony, in particular, can easily be lost.
New posters have a few barriers to overcome and it can sometimes feel a bit like joining in a party that has been going on for sometime and where you know no-one, but everybody else knows everyone and all the in-jokes etc.
Another easy assumption to make is that you are joining in a conversation among experts and might seem crass. OK I know very well we are not experts, but I think newbies sometimes feel that way.
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Ian Hopkinson, I wasn't accusing DGO of abuse, just unhappy that the common term for "Browsers" (a DGO term in another thread) is unfortunately rather derogatory. I refer you to http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/lurk:
Definition:
1. wait in hiding to attack
2. be about; "The high school students like to loiter in the Central Square"; "Who is this man that is hanging around the department?"
3. lie in wait, lie in ambush, behave in a sneaky and secretive manner
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FAQ
unlike those of DGO and DG who are both highly informative 