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End of April - is there any snow left in Europe?

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Hi all,

Like a lot of people I'm sure I've booked the 3 days between Easter and the royal wedding/May Day weekend as leave, giving me Friday 22nd April - Monday 2nd May (inclusive) off. Is there anywhere in Europe that still has decent snow that late? Just to complicate matters we'd be looking for both easy runs (for me) and a wide range of blacks (for my fiancé). Not particularly fussed as to country/airport though.

All advice gratefully received, even if it's telling me to forget it and book a week in the Med!
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Val Thorens. Successive EOSBs have always had snow there. Mind you, it can be corduroy ice in the morning and heavy porridge by late afternoon.
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Ischgl is another option. They also end the season with a big concert. http://www.ischgl.com/top-of-the-mountain-concert.en.htm
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Maybe one of the glaciers along the Salzburg/Tyrol boarder...Hintertux or the Kitzsteinhorn? Maybe not extensive ski areas, but have year round skiing.
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Hintertux should be good as well as Stubai glacier. Or maybe do both.

Most of the resorts I guess will try to stay open but I don't see how all the low ones could offer any good skiing except maybe a few runs on top.

Definitely all the glaciers will be OK but very busy. Same with high resorts like Ischgl, Val thorens, Tignes etc.

I myself would fancy sort of road trip in Austria. Easier driving in spring and probably more accommodations without advance bookings.
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Sölden and the western Austrian glaciers will also provide a fair bit of skiing. Also look at Stubaital for a change as well. I've skied the Wilde Grub'n in late April before now (10km ski route from the glacier to the car parks)
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Ooh, thanks everybody. I know the boy would be very keen to go back to the 3 Vallées; I'll look at the Austrian stuff as well.
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Most of the resorts I guess will try to stay open but I don't see how all the low ones could offer any good skiing except maybe a few runs on top.

No, most of them won't be trying - almost all will have ended their seasons before the end of April (many on 22nd April). However much snow there is. However as indicated above there are a number of good options - and I don't think Tignes will be very crowded, actually. Most people have given up skiing and got their mountain bikes out by then. And at tignes it would be very, very, very, unusual to have only the glacier runs open at the end of April - it can be a fantastic time to ski. Sunny and warm, or possibly some big dumps of snow which don't hang around long but are great while they last.

Personally I think Tignes, or maybe some of those Austrian areas, will usually be a better bet than the 3 Valleys, by then. I don't know the Austrian areas - worth getting some good local info on how much is open last week in April. There are some experienced Tignes people on this forum who could give you detailed info about that.
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For what it's worth Ischgl often has about 90% of it's runs open at the end of the season (the runs down to the valley are tricky, but they work hard to keep them open). Like everywhere it will be Spring skiing and the day finishes earlier as the snow softens. You can get some great late season snowfall giving you fresh powder, you can also enjoy some lovely spring snow (timing and aspect become important).
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pam w, yes you right. I meant a lot will try to stay open until Easter Monday which is 25th I think but no longer.
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Obertauern is open till early May as well! http://www.obertauern.com/en/
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We have raced over in Italy at Sulden am Ortler, http://www.sulden.com/de/sulden/sommer/allgemein/webcam.asp they have a big end of season race on the Bank Holiday Monday and then the resort is closed 2011 on May 8th. The pistes were always rock hard corduroy, a real party atmosphere too, live bands , no black runs but as far as I know there are none up at Kitzsteinhorn either.
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Thanks folks, this is really useful. A quick Google tells me that the Trois Vallées close on Easter Monday, but it looks like there are still loads of options.
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Grands Montets closes around May 10 - it does have blue runs and plenty of tougher stuff too.
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kooky wrote:
no black runs but as far as I know there are none up at Kitzsteinhorn either.


That's not true. There are 2 black slopes up towards the top of the glacier accessed by a surface lift. However they are 2 of the easiest black slopes I have ever skied.


If Ischgl and Tignes stay open and hold snow as late as people are claiming they do then they would be your best options.
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1. Val d'Isere;
2. Tignes;
3. Val Thorens.
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Leeds_Skier wrote:
kooky wrote:
no black runs but as far as I know there are none up at Kitzsteinhorn either.


That's not true. There are 2 black slopes up towards the top of the glacier accessed by a surface lift. However they are 2 of the easiest black slopes I have ever skied.


If Ischgl and Tignes stay open and hold snow as late as people are claiming they do then they would be your best options.


There is a very short one up at the top, the other two blacks used to be red runs ...
http://www.rasc.ru/resorts/austria08/kaprun-map.jpg

http://www.bergfex.at/kitzsteinhorn-kaprun/panorama/
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Leeds_Skier, actually yes I remember those now but they are never open end April/May are they?
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1) Tignes
2) Val D'Isere
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kooky, Never seen them open to be honest and I've skied there out of the winter season most years. They are the ones we were looking at on the right-hand side above the Alpine Centre.

I think that part of the glacier is very vulnerable and so they seem to keep them closed rather than fish dipsticks out of crevasses Toofy Grin
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Tignes would be your best bet I would have thought.
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Samerberg Sue, yes I have skied them in Jan /Feb and they are very easy for black runs , there are some nasty crevasses over on the rock side you are right Shocked
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Les Deux Alpes is open until 30th April. It's always been good when I've been there in April, I'm there until 20th next year.
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Whitegold, I'd reverse that order.

lml82, the 3 Valleys as a whole finishes then but Val Thorens itself is open up to the 8th May.
That is the week of the EoSB (End of Season Bash) in Val Thorens.
Not only the wide range of runs that you're after but company at all ski levels too.
There will be guided off-piste groups that your Fiancé can join for the day and a good few blue-run/bar-restaurant skiers to keep you company if you like while he's doing so.
EoSB info / chatter is here
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They were open early April last year, however we had the slope to ourselves and it was well groomed. So, although it was relatively easy it was a good run.

On the panorama piste map what do the dotted red lines represent? A couple of us were tempting to go down a route which probably was the X2. On the key it says "freeride route", but are they particularly difficult? The fact that the slope seemed to vanish round a corner giving us little knowledge of what the route eventually lead to coupled with it being a glacier and the last run of the day kind of put us off.
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lml82, We did Tignes quite late on in the season one April. Lots of slush and pools of water down at resort level at the end of the day, but great up top.
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admin, have to say that does look quite tempting. I'll have a chat with the boy... The company issue is a thorny one - skiing isn't an ideal holiday for us on our own because of the ability gap - and this could be a good way of solving it.
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lml82, Just a word of warning, If you go to the EOSB, you will want to return the next year, and the next... snowHead snowHead snowHead

Seriously, it would be ideal for your situation.
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I think a dotted line relates to an itenary route (un-pisted)
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pam w,
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I don't think Tignes will be very crowded, actually. Most people have given up skiing and got their mountain bikes out by then.


The area might not be crowded but book well in advance for a hotel for the weekend. I pitched up one weekend at the beginning of May without a booking and there was no room at the Inn. Did not go down well with the family. Actually we got somwhere quite nice in the end but only after going around every hotel in the resort and getting a cancellation for the night and then the second night and then the third night. Slopes were uncrowded though.
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One option which isn't really europe but scandinavia has great snow still at the end of april. Heading up to norway or sweden could be exotic and offer some fun stuff at that time of year, riksgränsen for example has almost 24h sunlight by then so long glorious days of skiing!
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wiiskier,
Welcome to snowHead 's nice idea that.
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lml82, Resort that are usally open end of april beginning May
Kaprun, hintertüx, Neistift, Axamer Litzum, sölden, St Anton, Zermatt/Cervinia, Saas Fee, Argentiere/Chamonix, Tignes, Val Thorens, Masella/La Molina, Sierra Nevada,, and there is more, Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Samerberg Sue wrote:
kooky, Never seen them open to be honest and I've skied there out of the winter season most years. They are the ones we were looking at on the right-hand side above the Alpine Centre.

I think that part of the glacier is very vulnerable and so they seem to keep them closed rather than fish dipsticks out of crevasses Toofy Grin


That side has avalanched in the past onto the Gratbahn lift station below so they tend to be careful.
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In answer to where should you go Very Happy
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Also just booked the May Day/royal wedding long weekend - as we have done for the last the few years. There's usually over half the Espace Killy still open - with a mix of winter conditions at altitude (3300m) and total mush on lower slopes (Les Brevieres 1500m).There's everything in between, er, in between....We've had powder on 2 out of the last 3 trips! Here's some pix to illustrate typical may conditions - showing runs back to Tignes (2100m), the Face run back to Val D'Isere (1800m), the piste just above Les brevieres (1500m) - and powder above Val D'Isere. Click on each pic to enlarge.



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mountainaddict,

Great photos! Just like mountainaddict, says, early May is a great time to ski! We've skiied Tignes, Val D'Isere, Chamonix and Val Thorens over the past 4 May Bank Holiday weekends and always found brilliant conditions - ranging from powder to water skiing lower down. Great fun nonetheless Very Happy Very Happy

The pics have got me in the mood for Val Thorens on Boxing Day!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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