Poster: A snowHead
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Hi. Apologies if this has been asked before, but only just registered to the site. We want to go to France at the very end of Jan but having only ever been Bulgaria before, we are at a loss of where to go. I have been looking at Flaine or Montgenevre, as my book (where to ski/snowboard) shows these as being good for snow but cheap in resort, however, we also want life in the resort (both these resorts seems very quiet). Can anyone recommend somewhere that has good snow but not as expensive as Val D'iser, Tignes etc. We are beginners and intermediates and young(ish).
Also, Ive read about morzine and sounds nice, but is lower altertude - would I be risking it if we went here but is anywhere in france pretty much snow-sure. Thanks
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Jon Ford, I didn't find Morzine particularly cheap, however you'll be fine for skiing there... Avoriaz (a short ride up the Super Morzine Bubble) has an excellent snow record. Decent apres-ski too, nice enough town too and close to Geneva. My guess is there are plenty places more expensive than Morzine, but I wouldn't describe £6 for a beer as cheap...
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Jon Ford, Hi,,, I will say La Toussuire,,, belong to Les Sybelles, the 4th biggest skiarea in france,, and alot cheaper than Tignes , Val Thorens etc,, Is a very french resort,, but there is also english and Netherland skier their,,,
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but is anywhere in france pretty much snow-sure.
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no, France as a whole is no more or less snowsure than anywhere else, but end January is a very good time to go and you'd be unlucky to find poor snow in the main Alpine areas - if it's warm (or very dry) might be a bit threadbare in some lower areas. Lots of places have snow cannons now, so they can keep (some of the) pistes snowy provided the weather isn't too warm, though artificial snow is not a patch on the real thing it's better than a patch of grass.
Flaine and Morzine are both pretty big, popular, mainstream, resorts set in large interlinked ski areas. Marginally cheaper than val D'Isere, but there won't be a great deal in it. Smaller, lower profile French resorts will be significantly cheaper (for the odd coffees, beers, lunches etc) but tend to have mostly French family skiers (or Dutch or Belgian or Italian families sometimes), and they don't roister around getting drunk and dancing on tables - a primarily French, small, resort, will probably be quiet as the grave by 10 pm. Ours is, but that's the way we like it.
If you want smaller, and not too expensive, but with some more lively nightlife you might be better off looking in Austria (e.g. Mayrhofen). Are you dead set on France?
What kind of nightlife are you looking for (even the smaller resorts will have a selection of bars and restaurants) ? And what kind of accommodation?
In most of the Alpine areas, most of the time, you'll find it quite a bit better for skiing than Bulgaria, judging by the reports here about Bulgaria.
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Actually, Mayrhofen isn't very small - there are lots of smaller places but some of them will be very quiet.
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Ellmau, Going, Sheffau would give access to the Skiwelt and be cheaper and less rowdy than Soll. For france, basically go to the local travel agent, look at all the resorts they list (in the main) and discount those for cheap skiing and expect that the others will be less british over the winter and in the main less of a rip-off and probably offer side door access to a reasonable linked area of skiing. Les Sybelles is a good example...
Also cost is largely determined by how much effort you put in to organising something...leave it to a TO and expect to pay for it, do some research yourself and in many cases you can make significant savings. At the end of January you should have no issues finding accommodation, snow and a good deal in my experience.
Good luck
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Jon Ford, go to La Rosiere, its in the same valley as Val d'Isere, Tignes and Les Arcs but the lift pass is less expensive, it has a terrific snow record, always in the top 5 French resorts for snow cover, there are lots of self catering appartments in the village, food and drink are not nearly as expensive as in the mega resorts nearby, the village is small and friendly, it's at 1850 metres so very snow sure and it's ski area is shared with La Thuile in Italy so you get the added bonus of skiing in 2 countries. You'll find lots of information on www.larosiere.net the Tourist Office website.
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It's not to difficult to find what you're looking for. But prepare, once you get off the beaten (by tour operators) track, you may need to read and speak a little french.
There's lots of less known resorts that have very good skiing. some examples:
- Peisey and Vallandry - connected to les arcs area
- Saint Sorlin (250+ km area but beware many tow lifts)
- Valloire (real authentic village, 150+ km area with Valmeinier)
- Val Cenis
- Vaujany & Oz in the Alpe d'Huez area
just to name a few
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Valmorel is a nice French resort, in the Tarentaise near to the 3 Valleys but quieter and probably a bit cheaper. British tour ops do go there but I think it is often overlooked in favour of the larger resorts nearby. Valmorel was the first French resort I went to (many years ago...) before becoming more ambitious (and earning more ) and moving on to Tignes / ValD / Meribel / Chamonix etc.
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I've been to St Sorlin and the wider Les Sybelles area would suit. There are a couple of resorts around Grenoble, Chamrousse and Les Sept Laux which would fit the bill. I've also been to the Pyrenees, far cheaper.
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There are loads of small, little known, French resorts with excellent skiing. It was the OP's wish for "night life" better than that available in Flaine and Montgenevre which had me wondering.
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thanks for all the advice. As long as there are a few bars and things to do off slope (ie dog sledding, ski-doos), Flaine sounds V nice (and the Appt we have a deal on looks great). Dont need hustle & bustle of Val D', as one is a complete beginner, so amount of runs will be wasted on her, but we are young ad would like some drinks etc after. Thanks again
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You know it makes sense.
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Flaine is one of the bigger and better known resorts, Not cheap though. Last time I ate a (v basic) lunch on the slope there I was a bit shocked at the price - and I spend most of the winter in a French resort. If you have an apartment and buy your beers in (and maybe go back to the apartment for lunch) you'll be fine. if you drink more than very, very, moderately in bars, or want to buy yourselves a substantial lunch on the slopes each day, you'll spend a lot more than your apartment will cost you.
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We are going to Courchevel 1650 this year and are going to try self catering to see if we can save some cash.
Went to Tignes last year and spent a fortune!!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Well you should certainly save cash if by self-catering you mean self catering - especially if you do some forward planning and take some food basics with you. Often is just means renting an apartment and trying a different resto every evening. Very nice too, but it's stretching the language to call it self-catering. proper self-catering will save you money, but the change of resort makes no difference - self catering is cheaper in tignes, too. The 3 Valleys and the Espace Killy are probably the most expensive resorts in France and possibly in Europe. We spent a week in Courchevel 1650 a few years ago, followed by a week in a small French resorts where a coffee or hot chocolate on the slope was literally half the price.
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