I'm thinking about selling my 2 sets of ski's and switching back to a single ski that will do everything as well as possible. I have done several seasons and would class myself as an advanced skier offpiste, piste and park. The reason for the switch is mainly that I'm unlikely to be doing another season for a while and its a pain taking both my ski's plus all my other stuff for holidays.
I currently ski Volkl Mantra 184's for general high speed ripping and off piste and Line Invader 179's for park and general messing about. I fricken love the Mantra's in particular as they are so fast and powerful and will be sad to see them go (but they are way to stiff for park and not proper twin tip), the invaders are fun and poppy and good for switch but to be honest I find them a little slow which has caused a few issues on getting approach speed to bigger kickers.
Ideally I would like a ski that needs to be pushed and dominated a bit like the mantra's, but is also soft enough and twin tipped to be able to cut it in the park, with preference for kickers more than rails.
Does anyone have any recommendations? From reviews I have seen I am currently edging towards a set of K2 Kung Fujas??????
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Treacle, was going to suggest Mantras then I read the second paragraph of your post You're going to be compromising, skis that need pushing/dominating are usually stiffer but you want something softer. Good luck
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I highly reccommend k2 seth vicious through to obsethed. They really are a fantastic ski for absolutely everything. moguls to powder .... cannot fault them and they are my one quiver ski and have been since 2006......
Sideshow - Yeah I know, that's my dilemma! My skiing style on and off piste I would say tends to be fast and powerful which is why I love the Mantra's as they respond well to this. I think I could handle a softer ski, but it still needs a very positive feel to it if you know what I mean.
I do realise what I end up with will be a bit of a compromise, but I want the best compromise I can get! Half my problem is I don't really specialise or have much of a bias towards one area of riding more than any other, but can hold my own in most disciplines - and I guess I'm looking for the same in a ski!
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Could consider putting inserts in both pairs of skis and stepping down to one pair of bindings. This would allow you to swap bindings on the skis like changing a snowboard binding. Not difficult getting 2 pairs of skis without bindings in a ski bag.
Would probably be cheaper than buying new skis as well, not that I'm trying to put you off buying new skis. See www.jonsskituning.co.uk for details.
limegreen1, Yeah might be worth a look for me, I tested the Seth Vicious when I bought my Mantra's a couple of years ago and they were really fun and put a smile on my face, but overall at the time I decided they felt too much like a park ski and as I already had park ski's I opted for the Mantra's which felt more powerful and gave me more confidence in charging hard.
Maybe now my requirements have changed it might be worth taking a look back at the Obsethed - thanks for the recommendation
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gorilla, thanks for the tip, but I think I am defo looking to go to just a single ski for simplicity as much as anything. Plus with 2 contrasting skis like I've got I find it can be a bit of a pain if I do a bit of powder in the morning and then decide to ride park in the afternoon or vice versa.
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Volkl Gotama? Line Prophet 90/100, or Blend? Dynastar Big Trouble/Sixth Sense Big or Sixth Sense Slicer?
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Treacle, just stick with 2 pairs of skis. The ski you need in the park is probably the total opposite to what would be ideal for everywhere else.
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K2 Hardside is a super solid quiver ski! Its 98 under foot and nice and responsive. I skied on the Hardside for the last couple of months of last season and the Southern hemisphere winter before that and it's a super good all-rounder. Its not really had amazing reviews, I put this down to testers not being able to ski all that well.
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Hardside is not a twin, which was one of the requirements. Personally, I don't think it can be done - having full-on charging capacity as well as more forgiving flex for stomping big airs.
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but... the Hardsides aren't twin-tips, so they're not going to fit the bill, I don't think!
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i would say k2 kung fujas or line blends would be more up your street, the obsethed has gone a bit wide in my opinion to perform everywhere!
If you read the description of the blend its pretty much aimed straight at ya and skis really well this year with the rocker in the tip!
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clarky999, The Gotama is probably a bit too much towards off piste and not really suitable for the park. A friend has just bought Prophet 100's and I had a few runs on them the other day at Tamworth, seemed pretty good to me but didn't have a chance to test them properly really, but could be a contender. Big trouble could be an option as well, have never used them but heard they are really good, have done a search though and it appears Dynastar have dropped them from the range for the last couple of years? Sixth Sense slicer sounds interesting as well and might be worth a look.
scotia, You might be right, but I am getting frustrated with carting 2 sets of skis around and having to dictate my riding all by the ski I choose to put on in the morning. If I live to regret the decision of going to one ski I could always switch back to 2 again later.
skierchris, Hardside sounds like a good ski but not really what I'm after, it sounds similar to the mantra I already have which will make it unsuitable for the park and switch. But as you say if I go to one ski I can always rent some big boys if I score on holiday and get a huge dump and need more float.
dansmith, Yeah Kung Fujas is still looking top of my list, the reviews sound really good and like the ski is targetted at what I want. Blends are a possibility although the reviews don't sound nearly as good as the Fujas which leads me in that direction.
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P.S. my Volkl Mantra's and Line Invaders will both be for sale so feel free to pm me if you want info. Both are in really good condition and come with decent bindings
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Treacle, I think you'll regret selling them and trying to replace them with one pair of skis.
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Perhaps yes, but if that does turn out to be the case I can always buy another set!
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the only regret you'll have is not getting the k2 seths sooner ... cant comment on this seasons obsethed model as i have'nt skied on them..
I used to ski on rossi 9s and a volkl 724 pro, and unless you really want a specific ski like a dedicated race ski or k2 pontoon fat ski, there is no need for more than one set of skis. The market more than caters for the one quiver brigade. IMO.
My only concern with the Obsethed is that they are pretty wide, bigger this year at 117 waste, to me this ski seems to be moving totally towards big mountain and is probably too large to offer me the versatility I want or be suitable for park. They are clearly marketed and reviewed as a big mountain ski which isn't what I'm after.
The older Seth Viscious that I have tried would have maybe fitted the bill for my requirements but now with the extra width of the new model I think they are outside what I'm looking for. With all ski's gradually getting more obese it looks to me like in the K2 range the wider 2011 model Kung Fujas is stepping in where the old Seth Viscious used to fit.
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I agree. Im still on the 98mm waist. Maybe a second hand set, but they are hard to find....There are some 169's on ebay at the mo..
169's are too short for me, but might keep my eye out for some used Seth's in a bigger size if I decide against buying new
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IME the older Seths (pre-obSETHHd) weigh a ton. If you are convinced what you need is one ski to do everything have a look at the Whitedot One.
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What about some PM Gear Lhasa POW 186?
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Treacle wrote:
Ideally I would like a ski that needs to be pushed and dominated a bit like the mantra's, but is also soft enough and twin tipped to be able to cut it in the park, with preference for kickers more than rails.
Does anyone have any recommendations? From reviews I have seen I am currently edging towards a set of K2 Kung Fujas??????
Just flexing them in store, 10/11 Kung Fujas are frighteningly soft... Find a pair at least to look at/feel, before you buy.
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Good advice, will see if any of my local stores have them, and what other options they have on offer as well
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Big trouble could be an option as well, have never used them but heard they are really good, have done a search though and it appears Dynastar have dropped them from the range for the last couple of years?
A few years ago they it turned into the Sixth Sense Big (gay name lol), but it was only the graphics and name that changed. They dropped it for this season, but there are plenty of both (brand new) kicking about on american/german ebay on the (very) cheap. Very fun and versatile skis, I have them with barons as my everyday mess-around ski.
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Treacle, The blend is a great ski I had a set my self... Going by what I've already sold brake the mould get away from the kung fuja and not be a sheep! lol
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100mm wide ? Decent flex ? All mountain ski ability ? Twin tip ?
Core-upt Candide Pow looks really good - and the price is right too.... (especially new on ebay.fr)
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Btw I ski Head Mojo94s (now called John/Johnny94) , which I think are perfect myself: twinned, can charge really hard, but the tail is a bit softer which works well for quick turns as well as landing big airs in the backseat
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Treacle, if you love the Mantras, what about the Bridge. Twin-tip, but stiff enough to charge a bit, I would expect them to work well in powder provided you're not too heavy. A couple of years ago I spent a weekend in La Grave skiing with a group that included one of the best non-pros I've ever skied with (and he'd show many ISIAs I've skied with a clean pair of heels as well) - and he was on Bridges. Seemed to have no problem in the knee deep powder we had - either regular or switch - made a good few drop-offs up to about 10ft, bounced through mogul fields with style and panache (including one-handed when he'd broken a pole), excellent evasive manoevres when the ridge he was taking air off turned out to have 90% rocks in the landing zone (he found the one patch of snow to bounce off and into the neighbouring mogul field where he made about three dynamic turns before finally losing it!). Skis seemed to take just about everything he threw at them.
He was about 70kg and 30 though.
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Yeah have just been looking at a few reviews of the latest model bridge and it sound like it might be bang on:
I like the fact they say its a little stiffer than the competition so charges hard, sounds like it could be what I'm after. A review in the park would be useful to see though.
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OK, think I have narrowed my selection down to 4 alrounders. What would be peoples choice of the below and why:
the top 3 look alot cooler ... as I said personally would go for something diffrent and stay away from the k2 they are gonna be commoners muck!
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Yeah, the blend would probably be my choice style wise as I think it looks sweet, followed by the Bridge, Fujas and last the 6th sense which is a bit dull. But at the end of the day performance is much more important to me than style, if the ski's I choose look good as well its just an added bonus
How about getting marker schizos on them so you can move the bindings forward for the park?
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Id go Dyna just 'cos I love them (have had Legend 8000's, now own Sultan 85's and Big Troubles), typically nicely powerful, smash through crud, bomber construction (I tend to abuse my kit). Haven't seen the Slicer's in the flesh though. I reckon the K2's and Line's may be a little soft for you...
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yup, I'd agree with clarky999, go Dynastar for a quality product.
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Looking to sell up, what would be a sensible price to ask for my Volkl Mantras with Salomon STH 12 bindings (might be 14's actually need to check), in really good used condition?
See my invaders already in the for sale section also
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, dansmith, sorry for the threads hijack, I have a pair of Line Blends and was wondering where you have yours mounted? I got mine on the traditional line but looking at them now I am regretting it, it seems too far back I ski powder but also mess around on the pistes and go in the park a bit. I am going to try them where they are mounted anyway as it seems such a shame to have them redrilled.
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You're going to be compromising, skis that need pushing/dominating are usually stiffer but you want something softer. Good luck 
- made a good few drop-offs up to about 10ft, bounced through mogul fields with style and panache (including one-handed when he'd broken a pole), excellent evasive manoevres when the ridge he was taking air off turned out to have 90% rocks in the landing zone (he found the one patch of snow to bounce off and into the neighbouring mogul field where he made about three dynamic turns before finally losing it!). Skis seemed to take just about everything he threw at them.
... as I said personally would go for something diffrent and stay away from the 